Joe Pera

Todd Barry

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https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/us/native-lives-matter/index.html

I mean...

I dunno, I always thought it was meant to mimic organics.

"Cable management" inside the human body is horrendous. So it felt like in the mixing of machine and biology, the machines had to become more biological in the way they worked to function properly in tandem with the Borg biology.

Guy behind Beeper fucked Pebble smartwatch users and developers on his way out.

So when Beeper isn't making enough money and he sells it... Will you trust who he sells it to to keep it secure instead of aiming to use data for ads or some shit?

I won't.

When WWIII finally starts, we'll still be expected to show up to work on time.

No problem. I remember being mildly irked about it at the time, because while I disagree with his choice to make that donation to that group, and understand the feelings of LGBT people working at Mozilla and how knowing his politics impacted them... He handled the public response to it professionally. He didn't double down like conservative politicians these days and start shouting about "gays are groomers" or something. He owned it and stepped away, which should at least speak to him not being completely homophobic and able to take ownership of how his personal politics affected others. You see so little of that these days, that when someone acts professionally after perceived wrongdoing, it seems sad when people don't recognize it.

Also, I never saw any news of him being proven to have made any discriminatory moves while in Mozilla at all. I could be wrong, but I don't remember employee complaints of being treated differently before the news of his donation broke. Like I said, I can understand how that news can change how you feel about your boss, but if your boss never made an outward show of it in a work environment and a news report on his political donations is what it took for you to know his politics... it means he was probably being pretty fucking professional at work and trying to not let his personal politics infect how he treated his coworkers and employees. *shrugs

I just wish eggnog's flavor was as celebrated as pumpkin spice.

put that shit in everything.

Oh man, do I dare even wade in on this issue. It has gotten so sticky.

1. There's a real chance that this attack was successful because of intelligence passed through former US President Donald Trump.

2. The attack did not represent the will of everyone who lives in Palestine.

3. The response from Israel so far has been wildly disproportionate and has labelled everyone in Gaza as an enemy, worth pulling access to important things like water and electricity to the whole area. They are calling them "human animals."

There are literally zero good guys in this situation.

You have the former President of the US and his party who have fully embraced trying to push an authoritarian dictatorship in the states, so they have firmly placed their bets alongside foreign authoritarian dictators whom they want to make allyship with.

You have Hamas deciding to murder people for going to a concert. Maybe the concert was politically motivated or something, but from the sounds of it, it was just... a music concert and wasn't necessarily a home to the most racist of racist Israeli's. Plenty of the people who died there that day could have been moderates or leftists who don't hate the Palestinian people. There are lots of moderates in Israel, you just don't hear about them as much, because like the US, our crazed conservatives are so loud they drown out anything else in the news cycle. Like why the fuck else would I have been so familiar with the name "Netanyahu" for the last 20 years of my life, but I could hardly bring up the name of moderate or leftists Israeli politicians to save my fucking life. Because Netanyahu, like Trump is the one out doing crazy shit and causing headlines. So likely innocent people dead for a political attack that is likely going to destroy even more innocent lives in Gaza.

Then finally you have Israel deciding (like usual) to take a total disproportionate and racist response where you're punishing each and every Palestinian for the crimes of a few. It's racist because they have decided that "all of them are the same." If you can't view a group of people as a disparate group who might not all feel the same way about every little thing, you've chosen to stereotype them, especially if your view of them is negative, you're choosing to be prejudiced instead of accepting that everyone is an individual, and no individual deserves to be punished for the crimes of another.

Fuck this whole shit ass clown show. We're all just trying to have a decent fucking life here. They're right to call out Israel, they're wrong to not call out Hamas and Trump right alongside them.

EDIT:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/

It's also starting to have a mild 9/11 feel, where the government was warned repeatedly, and you're starting to wonder if they sort of just... let it happen because the aftermath would be politically convenient for what they wanted to do politically?

I mean, it's Netanyahu we're talking about here, I 100% firmly believe he's enough of a scumfuck to let it happen on purpose so he could use to his advantage.

Zero good guys. The Bad, the Badder, and the Ugly.

Oh for sure, it didn't undermine your point excessively, just a little, I was mostly just being cheeky, just how it read to me. As I said, I agree with all the things you're saying. Cheers!

That's fair, but in that case you might just say "they likely profited handsomely off this venture" or something similar, because if you reach for dollar amounts like that, it can kind of undermine your point.

Also, and I hate to defend a homophobe here, but if we're going back to the details...

It all sprang up because he gave $1000 to the Prop 8 campaign for banning same sex marriage in California.

Scummy, to be sure, but it's not like he orchestrated the whole campaign or fully financed them. $1000 is barely enough to pay for one TV ad to play exactly one time on a local California TV station. I understand, yes, that when you add that to the rest of the donations, it was a juggernaut, but it still felt a little like punishing someone for having different politics. I also understand that it would be hard to work under someone like that knowing what his politics are, and questioning if that was going to impact fellow LGBT employees. Super valid reasons to be upset that he was put in the top leadership position.

His politics are shitty, to be sure, but a single $1000 donation definitely always seemed a little overblown to me. Especially since he chose to resign after just 11 days, while Mozilla had tried to convince him to stay on in a different role. No one in leadership roles stepped down over him, he made the choice to save the organization instead of himself. That at least showed some sense of humility. So I don't know, not the greatest guy, and his current trajectory with Brave hasn't been so great either, but he at least showed decorum in that situation.

However, that situation also put Mozilla on the defensive, having to put out a FAQ about how they weren't turning into an activist organization, or how you didn't have to ascribe to and agree on every political issue to work at Mozilla.

It was just bad business all around.

making (presumably) thousands of dollars off their users

I agree with this post completely but for some reason you finishing with this makes me chuckle.

Oh no! Thousands! They might be able to pay rent for a month or two!

I'm just being cheeky, and while its true what they did was scummy, it also feels like a really.... smallish amount of money?

If we're literally just talking thousands, and not tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands.

But yeah, fuck Brave.

Firefox gang and Hardened Firefox gang here to stay.

Mozilla's got its own problems but that's a story for another day.

Not as relevant as it used to be regarding this question, but...

War and Peace

Good. /thread

Wish we could cancel Executive Orders 12333, 13355, and 13470, all of which are used against US citizens.

Thanks Reagan and Bush, motherfuckers.

I think you're missing their point.

Indy was always "it belongs in a museum" when its an intricate part of some foreign nations history. That museum always seemed to be British or US.

The point being they're just stealing their history back. A reverse Indy.

"It belongs to the culture it came from. Allow them to choose what to do with it. Perhaps they even have their own museums."

https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/b3em1o/is_google_purposely_breaking_firefox_to_force/

Google's rejection of web standards and attempts to put in their own standards is half of what breaks shit anyway.

I'm glad they're working with the G Workspace team, but Holy Hell, it's been clear for a long time that Google, the company, isn't a friend to Firefox, even if individual developers are.

They mainly pay for top search spot in Firefox as a bulwark against claims of monopolization.

EDIT: I gave you an upvote here because you don't deserve downvotes for your well stated opinion.

I have done computer work for a bunch of little old ladies, and when they couldn't afford to upgrade to new hardware, I would put a lightweight version of Linux on their computers for them.

Only one of them really struggled with the difference, and she wasn't against learning, she just struggled. The rest handled the transition fine and didn't do a lot of complaining that it wasn't what they were used to. (Probably partially because I made clear what apps were what and put shortcuts to each on their desktop, each shortcut well labeled.)

I don't think it's unusual for people to "get used to" how certain things work and expect that. In fact, I'd say that's pretty normal.

But I think there's far less fear of change from regular people than you seem to think. I see far less addiction to the "brand" of Windows than you might think.

To use the car analogy, it’s like somebody who will only drive Fords, and is terrified of the prospect of getting behind the wheel of a car made by any other manufacturer.

I mean, lots of people are scared as hell of driving a stick shift and refuse to learn.... soooo yeah. I'd say that's a closer approximation. Because a Ford and a Chevy both have steering wheels and pedals all in the same place. You add that extra pedal and some folks lose their minds. Which at least makes sense because it is different.

I think this has less to do with Microsoft and more to do with the average human has no interest in learning something that only passively helps them.

I only know a handful of things about working on an automobile, while my father could practically take one apart and put it back together wholesale.

I can take apart a computer and put it back together wholesale, but I'm lost on an internal combustion engine.

I pay someone with expertise to handle the engine, because I've spent my time learning other things.

Look, unless the people you're talking about are doing tech jobs, there isn't a reason for them to learn the depths of it, just like there isn't a reason for them to learn the depths of how their car works. Both a car and a computer are tools, and those tools are made to be used by people who may not know the depths of the internal workings of either.

This post feels like elitism and gatekeeping to me, as someone who thinks Windows sucks and prefers Linux. The idea that it's the OS that is "holding people back" and not that those people might have more important things to do with their time than dedicate half their life to an operating system is absurd. If someone spends 20 years becoming a doctor, I'm not going to act like they're a dumbass because they don't know everything about fucking computers.

People don't want to learn more because for most people not knowing more doesn't impact their fucking life. Just like me not knowing more about my car doesn't generally impact my fucking life. Because I've never had trouble finding someone to pay to fix it for me.

Surprise, we're the people who are paid to fix computers for the people who are just using them as simple tools. Maybe we shouldn't be so upset about that.

Also, last but not least, Android is a strain of Linux and it suffers from all the same issues listed above as Windows. Acting like you couldn't pull the same bullshit in Linux if you wanted to is kind of a joke, because it's already been done with Android.

All the ad infested bullshit we all hate about Windows 10 and 11? Blame Linux-based Android.

EDIT: Also, personal opinion, if we're talking about which CLI is easier to learn and use. Microsoft has made great strides with Powershell being easy and accessible to people who haven't faced a command line environment before. The things that make its command line better than Linux's are two things, and only two things. (I hate that it's object oriented instead of text oriented, Powershell has a lot of bad things, too)

First, human-readable commands whose names describe what the command does in a verb-noun format. This means instead of Linux with some very, very obscurely named commands that are not descriptive and you just have to sort of memorize, you can just sort of remember because the name is human readable.

Secondly, the get-command command is huge because it allows me to search these verb-noun names for the command I'm looking for. On Linux, if I don't know the specific command, I have to search the internet, because there isn't a built-in tool that will give me an idea of what each command does and allows me to search for them through a filter. Once you find a command you think might work, it has the get-help command which produces something similar to a Man page.

Linux has Man pages, but because there is no rhyme or reason to how any commands are named, it's not very easy to find the command you're looking for if you don't already know the command. On Windows, if I know what the command does I may already have enough information to find the command using get-command instead of having to turn to Google and be like "what command do I use if I am trying to do X?"

So if we're talking about the superiorly designed command line that's easier for first time users. Powershell is where it's at. Because Linux is a confusing fucking mess of 30 years of random decisions by lone programmers. Literally the only reason I know commands in Linux CLI is because I had to memorize them. I don't do so much memorizing Powershell commands. If Linux was being built from scratch today, I'd practically demand a similar naming convention system to make it easier to understand what the fuck commands do.