fossil record show rich life at higher temps . alligators in wyoming and palm trees in canada

i believe the 2% figure is global agricultures total energy usage out of total global energy supply. the 5% is more specifically fertilizer from natural gas supply.

fertilizer prices have come back down again, but yeah any time price rises the cost rapidly prices out marginal producers and the consumers at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.

I know eurozone fertilizer production seems utterly fucked without access to the cheap russian gas. USA is booming with pipelines and new ammonia production facilities .

Nitrogen fertilizer production consumes about 5 per cent of the global natural gas supplies, which arent supposed to peak until 2034ish, so we probably have a good decade runway ahead still

There has been a number of "we got this" claims for green nitrogen production that ive followed for some years and tried to get data from but every one of them has narrative to spew and zero math to give an idea of energy cost of per unit of N which lights up my bullshit meter. an example of a company https://jupiterionics.com/our-technology/ though i see they changed their website since last time i checked so maybe their is data now. The fact that none of them will give figures to compare makes me pretty sure they are all worse than Birkeland–Eyde process which is not dependent on fossil fuels in the same way as haber bosch process.

1 lb nitrogen per 43lbs dry corn grain, 1lb nitrogen per 150lb potatoes production.

According to wikipedia With 1kwh in birkland eyde process you get about 60grams of Nitric acid so ?13.333? of elemental N (if i did the chemistry conversions right).

So a 1kwh solar array in oregon would get about 5kwh per day in the spring ramping up to 7.5kwh in summer which happens to track plant N needs since its light dependent . so if we just use a 6kwh average for may-september growing season we get 900kwh x 13 = 11700g = 11.7 kilos elemental N which is 25.13 kilos urea or 33.4 kilos ammonium nitrate (check my chemistry)

Bringing us (sorry switching back to lbs instead of kilos again) a solid 25lbs of N which is good for about 1075lb of corn grain or 3750lb of potato which is adequate for a single persons yearly calorie rations.

So overall i think it could make economic sense as a survival enhancement to get a cheap 1kw used solar panel array connected to a home brew Birkeland–Eyde nitric acid generator bubbling through a limestone/dolomite pea gravel bubble barrel (calcium nitrate) fed to a mazzei injector to fertigate a home self sufficiency garden.

Thoughts anyone?

amortized across 25+ years in food value versus retail it pays for itself many time over . costs versus just buying 1 ton pallet of 20 kilo bags of fertilizer , maybe not as advantageous economically but certainly a cooler project than explaining why you have an entire ton of ammonium nitrate in the shed

"I wish I had the money it would take to garden my yard properly"

What requires money? , just take seeds and cuttings of anything you buy at the store to eat and plant them. a bag of lime and fertilizer will pay itself back x100. If you have a yard you are already 99.9% there just get a shovel. You could have the thing running full speed by spring

Yeah libgen, scihub, wikipedia, wayback machine etc... thats where i get most value. occasional obscure forums. "internet" as a tech is cool, but i think a local area network with info access served by a local datahoarder could provide 90% of the utility

I'm open to suggestions. A lot of it will just be people i've known for long enough to know their quirks and dependability so i can get things started like that.

From what ive seen with communities that have any longevity they seem to converge upon similar process.

1.some type of contact like phone call/email/application figuring out if they seem sane and functional enough to have that basic interaction . this screens out some nuts and gets info for criminal background checks to make sure not convicted sex offenders or habitually violent danger.

2. visitation period usually under 2 weeks stay , part of this is because laws about short term stays mean you can kick them out whereas longer stays can require legal eviction even if there is no contract or rent exchanged legally you establish residence. So interact with them for the 2 weeks and have them automatically required to leave the property. evaluation by everyone in the community come to consensus for longer stay probationary period . This stage weeds out the impulsive perverts, drug addicts, alcoholics and some worse off mentally ill

3. probationary period These can be from 6 months to 2 years. Get consensus for full membership. This weeds out more of the adept cluster B personality disorders and removed free riders

Because there is so much convergence on that pattern i will just assume it is the best construct.

as for what the actual selection criteria are ,thats a whole other can of worms.

Im looking mostly in oregon. the plan is set up co-op situation mixture of community and personal land bulk buy for lower price per acre. west coast is mostly overpriced though on a per unit of bioproductivity basis so still considering other spots. underground weed economy crash is bringing lots of cheap per acre properties on market though

yeah i downloaded my reddit history. there are still reddit archives run by third parties that save everything indexed to usernames i think , you might be able to search the old stuff like that.

I will try to sort through all my reddit crap at some point and maybe post stuff thats useful as blog or publish a magazine or something. Im trying to exit the internet 95% over the next 2 years and get my anti-doomsday cult going fully in real life.

internet is such a shitshow that i realized its mostly just a negative in every way now. i dont know what its good for at this point.

At this point i would just prefer interacting with people in more direct ways. im writing off everyone not in my future tribe of back to the land revolutionaries plotting the destruction of the status quo and birth of alternatives.

yeah but there is no consumption without population. Pop*consumption= environmental impact.

Talking about population doesn't imply ignoring consumption as the best target for mitigating the problem. But the market will do that as prices rise and kick more population out of the "consumption is viable" cohort. unfortunately the market starts with the poorest and least consuming

There is a very specific type of person that works in the oil industry in texas , they buy the biggest most expensive gas guzzling truck, they work too many hours, drink heavily and often do hard drugs , and they overleverage themselves to the max always , when the economy takes a shit they lose everything and end up broken and pissed off. Then the oil bust works its way through the rest of the texas economy and its like the great depression. I grew up as kid through the 80s depression in texas and it was rough shit. I dont know how people would handle it these days. Ive seen mini busts along the way when this or that oil patch taps out and the people in the area just lose everything. As a kid i remember being around gaunt adults that were slowly starving with no jobs paying above minimum wage and those even nearly impossible to get. Texas isnt known for its compassion for poor people.

I think if the world decided it necessary they could probably manage to get venezuela oil pumping again and that would give the world another stretch of plateau. wouldnt be surprised if that 2018 peak was the real deal final peak though.

If the left actually took an anti immigration stance the right would start fading . If the left had a "take care of the people already here first goal"

Lots of left wing people are sane enough to recognize labor competition from immigrants and poor cultural assimilation leads to lower standard of living for them and their children. As long as this continues and things get worse you will be feeding the growth of the right wing. people will vote for survival and standard of living even though they loathe most everything else about the right

Leishmaniasis is now happening in the USA in my location. The tropical diseases are here but we still get occasional hard frost enough to kill the tropical fruit trees and not enough chill hours to make temperate fruit work. Worst of all worlds.

EDIT forgot to mention im in texas

I figured something like this would happen. I wonder if the nuke plants that got shuttered for the same cost reasons will also get subsidies

https://nemets.substack.com/p/seven-ages-of-western-eurasia

this is about six major falls of civilaztion

Did you find this entire paper anywhere? it wasn't upon scihub yet

Your argument that overconsumption is the culprit but not population doesn't make sense when the equation is (Population X Consumption)= Environmental impact.

There is no consumption without the population.

And virtually all the published everything about overpopulation is fully onboard that first world consumption needs to come down and 3rd world needs to go up to be fair.

Why does everyone think talking about overpopulation means you are hitler looking for lebensraum?