Based on my layperson's knowledge, you won't be immediately fucked in the way that VA or Medicare people will be.
Yeah "pretending to be someone I like" is still a massive step forward that would win my vote if they put just a little bit of effort into backing out up. Bernie did it for example!
Yeah Bernie could have pulled it off cause he has some credibility on it.
It's just not gonna resonate coming from anybody else, Democrats have been shooting themselves in both get so it's not really an option.
It's funny cause after I saw your post I started to sketch an outline in obsidian lol
Yep I'm kinda just posting here for the sake of it. Was gonna work on a slide deck today but I had some other stuff come up.
I agree though idk if anyone will ever see it but me. Slim chance it happens though. Maybe if I get a microparty going like I talked about down thread I could present it.
Thinking it would be a PowerPoint kinda thing, but doing for practice and never using it is in the same ballpark, and having it on the phone for reference is also a good idea.
No recommendation, I haven't done this yet. Having it in the phone would be good, I was thinking a power point kinda thing
You should organize your thoughts into slide decks that you can use to keep you organized and have evidence on hand to make your point, instead of having to scrounge up a screenshot from your downloads folder when you need it.
Socialist education is complex in the imperial core. You kinda need to understand like 8-12 different concepts at once before it all clicks (and even then someone may not fully agree at that point, it just starts making sense). Slides will help you lay all that out, and that sort of structure will make it easy for someone to digest as well, since you'll be able to specify what you will talk about when. Fewer tangents cause you can say "we are gonna talk about that coming up", so you can stay focused.
Your own arguments will sharpen up. There's definitely some lazy shit that's propagated on Hexbear/Twitter, and it'll start to become obvious where you have weak points when you start to structure your thoughts into a slide deck.
Trying to get a couple of people to sit down and take a lecture from you is borderline cringy, however the point is that right now, liberals are ready to learn. It shouldn't be hard to bring them to
"we agree on a lot: Trump bad and Democrats offer nothing except losing to Republicans, We need to do more about it."
followed by
"We've talked about socialism a bit in our conversation, but socialism is really a complex topic that it's taken me years to get a grasp on, it would be cool if we could sit down sometime and I can share what I know. I want to get us on the same page so we can start working on some political decisions together.".
These real life discussions will make you razor sharp in a way that posting online can not. Keep it interesting, add a bit of humor, and make it look nice. You should be able to educate people that you want to work with using this resource you craft for yourself (it's ideal to develop the slides yourself).
People do not actually want to educate themselves, and if you aren't doing it, CNN and the NYT are instead.
I don't think this would be a fruitful line of discussion. They don't perceive themselves that way, so it just kind of bounces off and makes you unlikable (cause you're calling them a shitty person to some extent, regardless of whether you're correct or not).
Focus on common ground, and you'll be able to stand on that ground and clean up that sort of stuff later on.
Excellent suggestions, thank you comrade!
It's the duty of party leaders to convince our comrades to make the best decisions for the party at large. You'll get very sharp going through the process in good faith with people who want to work with you.
I mean we know that 75% of the threads here are indecipherable to anyone who hasn't lurked for like 6 weeks at least. Same difference. When you first enter a new social space you pick up these linguistic nuances over time, and that's one important way to be part of the "in group".
Any third party that solely focuses on electoralism like Dems do is disqualified from the conversation imo. The idea is that the third party is doing more than that (and thus, achieving more than electoral outcomes) like proper socialists.
Lol that's a great way to put it, I wish it was that easy to explain to my liberals
Your post partially inspired my post here: Let a hundred local socialist parties bloom
Summary for those who won't click through is:
I feel you
Proud to see the self-crit comrade, we need to be thining ahead. I think some of my sarcastic comments didn't go that well myself, even though I try to keep it tempered down for that reason.
Yours too, comrade.
As it pertains to Hexbear, I think we need to consider putting a throttle on our irony. Hate to see our comrades experiencing hopelessness when we never expected this to be easy. Idk a lot to think about this morning. Let's post through it.
No but it just takes someone with resources to pop open a new Lemmy instance that's more or less serious than here. You can refederate without an issue and have it all!