Sadly — my point was exactly that we were not exceptional. Not alone in this at all. Sorry you are intent of this game of getting the last word, but please keep trying?
Sadly here I was in fact mocking the other commenters in the thread who failed to establish that the definition of murderer is America.
I did not realize that the conversation had a chance of venue.
I’ve since piece together that the initial comment that I made was on a meme equating the definition of murderer is America.
My response was to simply call to mind the notion that America is so complicated that Americans themselves cannot even agree on a definition.
My reading on the topic has been focused on Chomsky, Zinn, and Klein.
And what’s weird, is that I’m pretty sure everyone here knows and respects those thinkers. I’m pretty sure that despite that we are strangers on the internet — some who want to suggest that the apropos definition of Murderer is America and one who who believes America to be a more complicated place — we have more in common than not.
He hate injustice, oppression, murder. We revile what’s happening in the Middle East right now. We despise fascism and want to see Trump jailed at the very least.
Anyway— the original meme has been downvoted steadily. I’ve been called a fascist despite that I personally faced down federal thugs during the George Floyd protests and took a club to the throat.
And I believe there are also activists here who have suffers for their principles.
What gets me is this tendency to destroy someone you disagree with rather than educate?
Working towards justice means understanding that a nuanced conversation cannot be approached with reductionist name calling and would be better served by a sober examination of facts.
Well, besides that you are the vastly superior exemplar of refinement and intellect, and besides that I am a cretin, what claim are you intent on supporting in all this?
Seriously — this thread went sideways. It started when someone decided to redefine the word murderer as America. As ridiculous a claim as possible, unless of course you have zero understanding of what America is.
I have conceded from the emergence of the thread that America has committed genocide.
Sadly, I’ll also bring up that your use of contemporary technology and media owes so much to American ingenuity and innovation that you might reconsider your attachment to it. Just sayin’.
I also remember you clutching after your pearls when I mentioned that other states have engaged in brutal, despicable acts of genicidal oppression. Oh — but you seem to want to make the US exceptional here when sadly it isn’t.
Well, perhaps I’ve lost the thread.
Convince me.
Please restate your specific claim? It can’t be simply that you are the superior scholar, right? So go ahead — state it?
Loved that exhaustive list of just societies. Nice. You win.
And you seem perfectly willing to completely disregard those wars, oppression, and tyranny because it doesn’t service the narrative that… what? That no country has ever been as horrible as the United States? Really?
And… it’s a controversial topic but yes, the ancient Egyptians used slaves. So… it does not absolve the US for a single second — what the US did was hideous and horrible.
Hardly however makes America mean murderer.
You are clearly not reading my comments. There’s no denial here.
Also: no antagonism coming from me.
Pure civility.
And hope for a better future.
Let’s get the facts straight:
https://www.statista.com/chart/22057/countries-most-active-trans-atlantic-slave-trade/
And… more name calling. Nice.
Well… that sounds pretty vegan. Awesome.
What I’m saying is that their deliberate brutalities are mistakes.
It’s exactly what I meant: your thinking here is of the very lowest effort — it’s primarily concerned with name calling.
And the flaccid is a reference to your lack of substance.
Keep trying. I’m starting to get the hang of the insult club.