when two women share with each other which men have made them uncomfortable or assaulted them, that is considered gossip.

I know the rest of this is already being talked about but I don't want to breeze over this - I hope this is a case of just not understanding the negative connotations that the word gossip has. I, and most other femme presenting people I know, would not call this gossip because the word itself carries dismissive subtext and undercurrents of historic misogyny. This is a large part of why I am strongly against renaming it this of all things.

again, posting here after posting in the other thread because i need to get words out, even if they're not taken up

one of the founding principles, and one of the most important things that makes this site something I return to often, is the fact that we are willing to take each other in good faith. Absolutely there are times when people are posting dripping in irony, but for the most part I think this is something we've done well, and something we've managed to maintain over the years since this site launched. That said, the jacketing that keeps happening, and especially what took place yesterday in regards to 'cishet white vibes', needs to stop. We can change the rules all we want, we can struggle and struggle over and over again but until the leadership team here internalises this, the issue is never going to go away. It is clear that there is some level of contempt for the userbase, even if it's not framed as such. Even if we meme about it, the underlying culture of the leadership team seems to allow for this contempt to fester, and it's most clear when the team throws aside any nuance and understanding of the users here in favour of casting swathes of us as 'white' or 'cishet', so that sweeping decisions can be made about us. I don't know how you weed this out, I just recognise it as the seed that it is.

As a trans woman, as a Person of Colour, this is one of the few sane places online. Ultimately, I don't care about the tanks closing, even if I want them around. I don't even really care that we have struggles every now and then, but I admit I say that as a regular user and not a mod or admin. I'm not about to leave this site, I don't have elsewhere to go, but that is precisely why things like this concern me. I understand the effort and everything needed to run a site, let alone a site like this one, so I understand slip ups and miscommunication. I'm not about to call for the abolishment of the system, but some level of self diagnosis of the problem and consequences thereafter feels like the only good way forward here.

i wasn't sure if I wanted to join the struggle session, but I feel like I have to get my words out.

we have taken demographic polls of this site. we have pronouns, we have an em_poc comm and we have had struggle sessions about both of these in the past.

the gall to decide that our queer users are giving off 'cishet vibes'. the gall to decide that our POC users are giving off 'white vibes'.

this is genuinely disgusting behaviour, and I cannot believe the admin team let this fly, let alone decided it was worth adding to the argument. I am aware of what other info has come out - this point still stands regardless. why has the admin team signed off on this argument? why wasn't this shot down immediately? why was it ever entertained as a valid argument in the first instance?

superheroes, well known for only operating in societies where everyone is fundamentally good

Dunkey also has a legacy of chuddery in online games (see his history with League of Legends) so I wouldn't be surprised if that's a factor too

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Beorge Gush

I wanna take everyone on this site with good faith, and im gonna take Ulysses' advice and ask cos i might be misreading entirely and it's irresponsible of me to be making assumptions so I'm really sorry about that, but are you not saying that Japan was able to make 'GTA but Good' because they're Japanese (i.e. not steeped in western culture like the GTA team)? sorry if I misunderstood the 'Japanese Approach' comment

am I misreading this? you talked about how Yakuza and GTA being different, and then doublepepperoni chipped in that that's because it's like GTA but with 'a Japanese approach'

then you said that what you meant is the lack of edginess, the care for the characters, and then doublepepperoni said that that's what they mean by 'Japanese approach'

i took that to mean like, Japan was able to create 'GTA without being edgy' because the devs behind it were either Japanese or coming from Japanese culture

which maybe has its merits? but it does feel a little idk it feels iffy i dont know what to tell you

again, i get it if that's not actually what's being implied, i might be on edge because I've been dealing with a lot of privileged white people getting stuck in their 'Eastern Mysticism' stuff and I'm seeing issues where there are none, which would be valid

calling this a 'Japanese Approach' has some weird racial undertones that aren't really alleviated by doubling down

also pretending that Japanese media doesn't also have its fair share of edginess for its own sake is wild

they always say 'because of connections to Russia' and never 'because they were Russian'

I don't even get it, why have a smoke show when we all know exactly what you want to say

here?

Unfortunately I think that’s a bit of a liberal argument. It ascribes some ineffable quality to human creativity that AI cannot replicate.

unless my lying eyes deceive me

exist in part to belittle actual artists for the sake of boosting the treat printers (or the treat printer prompters) to artist status

that's what's so insane to me. for the longest time, STEM folk were all about 'artists aren't worth respecting' 'oh arts degree? just put the fries in the bag lmao'

then suddenly AI art comes about and then it's 'look at my art! AI makes better art than anyone and it's imperative we dump everything into it! you must respect my AI art! you must treat me like an artiste'

and now that it's clear it's a grift, it's 'art is dead, we will never beat AI, artists are back to not worth respecting'

once again, tourists visiting every creative medium they can to try and find fresh rubes for their machine

you say in your other comment that people are defending IP hoarding by defending people on the small scale, but right here you do the exact same thing in reverse - using the morality of piracy on the large scale in order to win an argument grounded in the small scale

people are saying 'small artists that eke by are getting screwed out of compensation for their labour' and you're chiming in with 'why are you trying to stop me from pirating from Marvel?'

you're either purposefully being obtuse about this, or you genuinely are so focused on validating your own piracy that you're talking right past the conversation entirely

Unfortunately I think that’s a bit of a liberal argument. It ascribes some ineffable quality to human creativity that AI cannot replicate.

every single time the AI argument comes down to this. "oh you just don't trust AI cos youre a rube who believes in a soul" no motherfucker I'm just not some fucking anti-intellectual who has decided, apropros of NO research into neuroscience, that I know how the brain works and it MUST be analogous to something algorithm based machines can understand

you genuinely don't know what you're talking about, and you have to take so many intellectual shortcuts to derive your position that you are not worth taking seriously

Art is dead, dude. It's over. AI won. Humans lost.

me when I totally understand art and respect the medium I want people to give me clout for

there was a time where I was younger and was convinced by lib PF fans that Roger Waters was crazy and all the rest of em get it

i know this is a joke of a cliche, but they couldn't make Animals today - the rest of the band would be too lib to let something like that slide

where's the yiddies how am i supposed to be horny while playing

wouldn't be surprised, i luckily don't have an algorithm that serves me that but the crowd is one hundred percent from the chud Gamer-sphere

you can tell because they start off getting mad that 'the Official Godot twitter account is blocking customers who replied in good faith' which is already laughable, and then when you press them on it they go on about how politics is going to make Godot go broke (also laughable)

im so glad that the term tourist has gained the meaning it has - cos that's what all these people complaining about 'woke' godot are

tourists looking to try and pick a fight with the indie game dev crowd, and you know they aren't part of that crowd cos if they ever even interacted with it once they would know how fucking queer and anti-capitalist our scene is

pro-tip: do not look at the reddit comments for this whole controversy, so many motherfuckers in there who are so clearly just drive-bys

i mean, to me it very much looks like a corset/bodice/bodysuit, considering the lace goes right down to her crotch, but either way we're now entering 'she dresses horny because it makes her feel empowered' territory of male-driven treatistry