Yeah

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    But the neolibs said that Sir Keith would lead the labour party to victory, unlike unelectable evil antisemitic commie Corbyn (who wasn't smeared in any way, shape or form, and wasn't just 2000+ votes away from becoming PM)

    • sam5673 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      You see the Blairite strategy of assuming the working class are hell or high water labour voters and thus appealing to the middle class, while having mysteriously been less and less effective over time, worked in the 80's and 90's so cargo culting it without understanding how and/or why it worked to begin with is the safe move

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Lots of :cope: in the replies:

    so, we've had a week of relentless Tory scandals in the media and magically Labour drop 5 points in that time - this poll is bullshit.

    lol

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I haven't heard news of the SPD in a long time. Are they as horrible as other succdems or are they just agonizingly boring and pointless?

        • iGem1n1 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          They're currently swinging between those two points.

          Also doesn't help that they are in a coalition with the conservative CxU in the federal government and are constantly getting browbeaten into retretating from already watered down positions. That said, in some states, the SPD is doing an alright job, whereas in others they are straight up trash. In Lower-Saxony the SPD Minister of Interior, Boris Pistorius, suggested outlawing anti-fascist groups.

          • SoyViking [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            In Lower-Saxony the SPD Minister of Interior, Boris Pistorius, suggested outlawing anti-fascist groups.

            Objectively the moderate wing of fascism :agony-deep:

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They said any leader would be 20 points ahead. That leader was Boris Johnson

    • sam5673 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I don't think it's a plan Corbyn made the partymen uncomfortable, Starmer is an unthreatening idiot. So they're happier with an incompetent with no real ambitions who won't threaten the Blairite strategy they're used to operating under

      • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        exactly starmer is a unthreating idiot , will not challenge the Prosecco Circle believes of the British Upper Class. He is Controlled by its "Civillity" ...

        • sam5673 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I think it's more that they forgot why Blairism initially achieved electoral success: the working class were broadly safe labour voters so the party could focus on the middle class without losing them.

          this isn't true anymore but the current generation of partymen only know this method and are afraid of doing something else for fear of losing what they do get or being exposed for not knowing what they're doing

  • vertexarray [any]
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    3 years ago

    Beheaded the abbott but it still won't rain. Imagine that.

  • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It sucks that labor always loses, but I will enjoy seeing that puffy-faced MI6 agent eat shit.

  • Dyno [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I joined NIP yesterday, though still haven't pulled the trigger on leaving the labour party, because it's what the neolib mafia want. if all the socialists leave, they get to inherit the largest party in the country no strings attached.
    it's kinda weird that NIP popped up as a socialist party considering the trend of regionalist parties to be fairly politically dull or right-wing; more so because I have in the past fantasised about the north of England seceding and merging with Scotland to form Scorthumberland or some shit.