I like this capeshit.

Invincible is a new show on Amazon Prime that just finished its first season.

If you like capeshit, pirate or watch it.

Downsides: the US military is made out to be good guys

Upsides: nice spin on coming-of-age superhero stuff edit: and every character has vulnerabilities that matter

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I really liked it. The voice acting was absolutely top-notch, JK Simmons is great. But the thing that really grabbed my attention was how it uses violence. Reposting what I said here the other day:

    My favorite part is that I find that it’s one of the best uses of gore in anything I’ve ever seen. I remember feeling like the first episode was kinda lukewarm and just vaguely interesting, until the last scene. The whole episode is [...] kind of Scooby Doo-ish, just your typical tepid animated X-Men violence, no blood, low stakes, nobody’s really going to die unless it’s a very special episode.

    Then Omni-Man arrives and slaughters everyone in excruciating detail, and the show just kind of grabs your attention. This happens very often in later episodes, and the result is that the more extreme violence has a very strong "shit just got real" feel. Whenever blood starts spraying all over the place, you start paying very close attention, because you know that it’s no longer just a superhero sparring match, but true violence. Contrast this with The Boys, which, while certainly a very good show, has the violence turned up to 100% from the very beginning, which kind of dampens the effect in a way.

    I don’t really know how to explain it in more accurate terms, but I find that the violence in Invincible is simply much more impactful than in most other stuff I watch.

  • fed [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    7/10

    I enjoyed every ep, although the last ep felt a bit too over the top on the gore lol.

    Also the whole fascist space empire feels like a tired trope, but I’m interested to see how it continues

    • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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      3 years ago

      felt a bit too over the top on the gore

      yeah, this is a problem more with the comic more than the show, it gets really gory really quick specially in every fight with viltrumites

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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    3 years ago

    I like this capeshit, its fun, and the changes from the comic arent bad and some are good in my opinion

    • Melon [she/her,they/them]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      im not familiar with the comic, but yeah being completely faithful to the source material is often a mistake (i.e. The Boys comic was shit, but the show is okay and changes a lot of things)

      • Waldoz53 [he/him,any]
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        3 years ago

        the original old man logan comic (not the newer ongoing on) is one of the strangest marvel comics i've ever read. it takes place in the future, blah blah blah, but one of the main villains is the hulk's children...who he had with his COUSIN she-hulk. it's so fucking weird and gross.

        can you imagine if in the movie logan the hulk and she-hulk's incest babies as villains? jesus christ

        the more comics cut out terrible, awful plotlines the better

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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        3 years ago

        The comic was very good, this adaptation runs through arc really fast was and i think thats good, and if you ignore how some arcs are earlier that they should and the power levels of the non-viltrumites, this was a very faithfull adaptation, but you are right about the comic of the Boys it was bad and the show is better because of the liberties it takes

        • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          The Boys really bad, and this is coming from someone who actually likes Garth Ennis. I held off on watching the show for quite a while because of it.

        • Melon [she/her,they/them]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          I mean there seems to be a lot more violence against women/sexual assault in the comics than there are consensual relationships. The gender swaps the show makes for many characters also make more sense to me.

  • Waldoz53 [he/him,any]
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    3 years ago

    i read like 3/4 of the comic in anticipation of the show and i like the show a lot more than the comic. it seems to cut out plotlines i do not care about? and the show has absurd pacing, so while season 1 ends on the first major arc of the show (omni-man reveal) it takes storylines from later issues, like the whole robo-cyborg that one weirdo at the university was building is from a little bit later in the comics

    voice acting is 10/10, jk simmons is always great and steven yeun is killing it again

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I enjoyed it. Certainly is an interesting take on the Kryptonians.

    • Uncle [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They're basically Saiyans

      Which is another earlier take on the Kryptonians

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    i like the gratuitous violence

    wish they had a better thing than making his dad a space nazi goku thanos superman. id like there to be real reasons as to why he did what he did, because apparently what he did before was also acceptable. also if his species cared so much about being strong why did he marry a typical human in the first place? seems to me he'd wait around and find the perfect super human to marry and indoctrinate his kid on the whole 'we are very superior' from a young age, and who knows maybe pass on some new superhuman dna AND viltrumite dna? seems like something a nazi that cared a lot about genetics would do

    though maybe his old age and longevity made it all seem pointless to care about how his kid was raised? that he'd come around eventually as everyone died around him?

    first 9/10ths of the first episode made me almost not watch the series

  • Minorityworld [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yea the twist about his dad was pretty obvious from atleast episode 2 but I really liked this show. Also slight thing but did anyone else think it was messed up what his girlfriend did. Like breaking up with him knowing he was a superhero the whole time and giving him shit for it. Maybe it's because we the audience has seen him get his ass whooped so we feel for him more. Because it's really hard to justify calling him a selfish asshole when he's out saving people or the world. Volunteering for soup kitchens is important but it's not like he didn't have a really good excuse for being late. I'd understand it if her reason was she just didn't want to date a superhero but it wasn't. She seemed mostly mad that he wasn't able to juggle being a super and being a boyfriend, which yeah he's 16 cut him some slack. Idk as a teen I had trouble juggling work and a relationship I couldn't imagine trying to juggle saving the world on a daily basis and having a girlfriend.

    • Melon [she/her,they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Don't hate on Amber. You can't expect women to throw themselves at people for merely being powerful. It's not wrong for Amber to have different expectations.

      After all, Invincible revealed his identity to Amber with the full expectation that it would be a magic bullet that would make her love him. It's true that Invincible had good reasons to no-show her, but he was still unjustifiably selfesh in many respects.

      • Minorityworld [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Oh I wasn't trying to hate on Amber like I understand where she's coming from. I don't even disagree with her breaking up with him. She deserves a normal relationship and mark needs to train cause there's a planet full of genocidal maniacs wanting to takeover earth. I just don't like how she did it. He obviously made mistakes but it just seems super hard to juggle being a superhero and go to school and try to have a girlfriend. I didn't mean to say that she should just forgive him because he's powerful, but just be more understanding, because he's a kid who's trying his best. Yea he fucked up and failed but still she just seemed overly harsh on him. Considering she knows he's invincible she's seen the ass whooping he's gotten on live TV like the dude had been through the ringer by the time she had broken up with them. I don't think she should throw herself at him cause he's powerful just go a little easy on him. She seemed to think the same way she got back with him, and the only thing that changed was that she saw his dad almost kill him.

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      You know how Nolan talked about how his mom was like a pet? And Mark was sort of having fun with his secret identity thing, and was fundamentally lying to her a lot. Maybe he only lied about cape shit - but well, maybe there are more things. He didn't treat her like an equal, and it made sense for her. It wasn't about juggling saving the world and their schedule, it was thinking he CAN do it all like some Spider-man shit.

      Unrelated, I enjoy how it's very clear that Cecil isn't a GOOD guy, his whole goal and purpose is maintaining the status quo by any means. Cecil also wastes A LOT of lives and resources, thinking that if Nolan could talk to Mark, Mark would go along with whatever it was. Also the fact Cecil's organization isn't aware of things beyond Earth, like the Mars problem or the very widely known facts about Viltrulmites.

      I like how Nolan uses abusive language and IS NOT a good person, as has been made clear multiple times.

      I also found the voice work to be great all around, just.. really elevating the material.

      I also found the gore to be affecting and shocking, as we are seeing it from Mark's view, where being a hero seemed cool and fun, but the reality is, every time he makes mistakes, people suffer and die, even if he does it right, people suffer and die, if he does nothing, people suffer and die. The fact that everyone is horrifyingly fragile helps get things across things, and the way he gets HURT so often, it is very clear that he is mentally strong in a way that most people never have to be. The gore and violence matter to what the show is trying to say, it's not trying to subvert super heroes like The Boys and go "SUPER HEROES BAD" instead it's trying to say that being a Super Hero is actually terrifying and horrifying and living in a comic book world would be a nightmare, even if you can fly and are supposed to be Invincible.

      COMIC SPOILER -

      spoiler

      ___I find it very odd how Nolan doesn't mention Mark getting his powers is why this happened, that because Viltrumites CAN breed with Humans, the mission has changed from a 500 year vacation to take over a planet to potentially being about doing a breeding program because there are barely any Left.