I moved here from America last year because they have tuition free college, and I'm honestly impressed with how stupid and evil this country is. Like I truly believe there is less revolutionary potential here than in America. Say what you will about America, but there is a general social attitude that does not put up with these bullshit opinions being publicly voiced.

Overall, Germany has some cool stuff going on, but they're also quite stupid and clueless.

  • Nama [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It was a punk cover of Madsens song I was thinking off. Madsen itself is not punk, you are right there.

    And yes, it is of course more a dream than reality. Driving is shit imo and I was more generally talking about traveling outside of germany.

    In my friend group we had the plan of making a roadtrip to Croatia for example, which got scrapped thanks to covid.

    And its definitely a trend that otherwise poorer people spend much of their money on cars to sometimes just drive around aimlessly. I'd say that is more sad than anything.

    Oh, and my Grandparents were rather young during the Nazi era. One of them helped to operate trains, the other learned to become a pilot apparently. He was 15 at the time though and died when I was 6. Both had undoubtedly been Nazis.

    • 5bicycles [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      In my friend group we had the plan of making a roadtrip to Croatia for example, which got scrapped thanks to covid.

      I don't mean to be an asshole, hell I hope it comes to be once Covid is "over", but that just doesn't seem indicative of a wider trend. Yeah sure, many people dream about that one roadtrip. Most of them don't do it because they realize driving sucks ass.

      And its definitely a trend that otherwise poorer people spend much of their money on cars to sometimes just drive around aimlessly. I’d say that is more sad than anything.

      I'm gonna hard disagree on that one. I don't mean to accuse of anything, but that's a fairly racially charged, if common, myth here. Again, this is at the intersection of german racism and carbrain. Most of the source of this one seems to me seeing young non-PoC in fancy cars and instead of realizing any of them could actually be succesfull enough to have (not own) a nice car, the assumption is they're poor people with shit priorities.

      This isn't to say there isn't a lot of people spending money they don't exactly have on fancy cars, but that's something that befalls pretty much every group in germany.

      Oh, and my Grandparents were rather young during the Nazi era. One of them helped to operate trains, the other learned to become a pilot apparently. He was 15 at the time though and died when I was 6. Both had undoubtedly been Nazis.

      Just to be clear, I wasn't accusing you or your family of being ignorant of this past, just that it's a very widespread phenomenon.

      • Nama [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I’m gonna hard disagree on that one. I don’t mean to accuse of anything, but that’s a fairly racially charged, if common, myth here. Again, this is at the intersection of german racism and carbrain. Most of the source of this one seems to me seeing young non-PoC in fancy cars and instead of realizing any of them could actually be succesfull enough to have (not own) a nice car, the assumption is they’re poor people with shit priorities.

        Poc are not generally seen as poor in germany. That is more an american stereotype than anything. I was more talking about my co-workers and relatives putting a lot of value in their cars. There was one I carpooled with, that drove a really new and expensive Mercedes to his low paying job every day, or the one that just wanted to drive around for an hour after our shift was over. Other people I know got old Mercedes models for the same reasons.

        This is all of course only my personal experience, but judging by how common it seems to be around me, I can assume these stereotypes are more or less accurate.

        Race discussions are much less ofva thing here than in america, and the very real discrimination against refugees is not intersecting with the carbrain.

        • 5bicycles [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Poc are not generally seen as poor in germany.

          Sorry, what?

          I was more talking about my co-workers and relatives putting a lot of value in their cars. There was one I carpooled with, that drove a really new and expensive Mercedes to his low paying job every day, or the one that just wanted to drive around for an hour after our shift was over. Other people I know got old Mercedes models for the same reasons.

          But this is what I was talking about. I know a lot of people who spend money they don't have on their car for prestige reasons instead of using a more sensible car (nevermind even other options) but that's something that's not limited to any specific group of people. Maybe except those who have fuck-you money.

          • Nama [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Sorry, what? That might just be my bias from living in a university city.