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  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Can you literally just kill people on death row any way you like in the states?

    • Rem [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      No cruel and unusual punishment allowed. But if you constantly execute people in a cruel way, it's only cruel, not cruel and unusual :think-about-it:

      • 5bicycles [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        love that running for governor on the base of exectuing people via wacky means would be the best way to stop any of them

        • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          "I promise that if I'm elected governor - I will institute a policy of execution involving a dunk tank that starts a Rube Goldberg machine that eventually starts a draw-n'-quartered monster truck pull..."

          • 5bicycles [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Also love that this proposal would fit the "cruel" part and also if you do it enough it won't fit the unusual part since that's just how you do it.

            • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Ever since I was a little kid I've been mystified why so many Americans treat judges (and especially justices) like august figures who are uniquely gifted to interpret the law like high priests of the temple did when they told the masses what god wanted.

              Judges (and justices in particular) are just opinionated assholes in black robes.

                • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Phony contrition is definitely a must in court. And the personality of the judge infects everything.

                  If I was on trial for something serious - I would only hire a lawyer who I felt really understood the importance of my questions like "What kind of person is the judge?" Any lawyer who thinks it's "just the facts" is a fool. Sure, the facts are important. But so is the goddamned judge.

              • 5bicycles [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                If it helps any, this is not a uniquely-american feature

                • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  The typical person isn't even aware they view judges as some sort of high priests of the temple for law. Maybe it's even a global thing.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      The death penalty is a great example of how arbitrary American law can be. The hows and whys of a particular death penalty case are greatly determined by who the judges (and justices) are who review it...

      Summaries of Key Supreme Court Cases Related to the Death Penalty

      Furman v. Georgia , 408 U.S. 238 (1972): The application of the death penalty is unconstitutional.

      Gregg v. Georgia , 428 U.S. 153 (1976): The death penalty is constitutional.

      And...

      Supreme Court won't block execution of man who fears excruciating death

      May 24, 2021

      Ernest Johnson sought death by firing squad, saying his brain damage leaves him at risk of severe and painful seizures if he's executed by lethal injection.

      The Supreme Court now has six Catholic fundie justices who were put on the court by the Federalist Society. In the coming decades there are going to an insanely high number of "surprising" decisions unless Biden packs the court to stop the madness. But Biden won't. He's a fucking lib.

        • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Scalia didn't get the memo.

          I once watched a Youtube vid by a guy with a Southern accent who was Taser salesman: "The best thing I think is great about a Taser is that you don't have to kill the person. I mean, there's plenta times people need killin'." That's actually what he said. I transcribed it. The last sentence reminds me of all the ghouls like Scalia.

          On Scalia's Wikipedia page he rails time and again for the death penalty to be applied to younger and younger teenagers 'cause people needed killin'. Plus there's this Scalia gem...

          In 2002, in Atkins v. Virginia, the Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional as applied to the mentally removed. Scalia dissented, stating that it would not have been considered cruel or unusual to execute the mildly mentally removed at the time of the 1791 adoption of the Bill of Rights and that the Court had failed to show that a national consensus had formed against the practice.

          Wikipedia

          The author is the senior apologist at Catholic Answers...

          Jimmy Akin is an internationally known author and speaker. As the senior apologist at Catholic Answers, he has more than twenty-five years of experience defending and explaining the Faith.

          He doesn't look like you expect.