• Pezevenk [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Looks like a suicide, I don't see why this should be a murder. People kill themselves so as not to go to jail, it happens.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Epstein "looked like a suicide" too. The man did not kill himself over getting in trouble for taxes, especially when he has millions and millions in untouchable crypto currency. Especially after literally saying he would not kill himself in prison, while in prison.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        He was going to jail for the rest of his life, he was 100% fucked. Not everyone is Epstein lol

          • PickleRick [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            At the same time - look at his tweets (and his wife's tweets) over the last few months - he was clearly very depressed.

              • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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                3 years ago

                Who though? The only real shit that I am aware of him being actually objectively in trouble was the murder investigation in 2012 in Belize and the tax evasion that caused the current extradition effort.

                Most everything else seems to be just out of his mouth that he is in trouble with people and that he was in danger.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yes, less than a year ago, meaning just the first months he spent in prison, and long before Spain decided to extradite him to the US.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I'll believe that when they show us the cell footage. It is either a staggering lack of care for a prisoner with heads that need to roll for it or it was not a suicide.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            It's not particularly uncommon for people to commit suicide in jail. It was weird with Epstein because of how convenient it was and the fact that he was on suicide watch, McAffee wasn't on suicide watch. McAffee was already in jail for 8 months in Spain and they decided to extradite him to the US. In the US he'd spend the rest of his life in jail. He was already in a very bad spot psychologically after spending months in jail in Spain, by his own admission. So, he killed himself. I seriously don't understand what is so weird about it. It's kinda weird how Epstein brain has seemingly made many people believe someone actually killing themselves in jail just can't happen. Also there is no "cell footage", normal cells don't have cameras running 24/7 for privacy concerns. That is only the case if someone is on suicide watch, which, again, he wasn't. Prisoners aren't under constant surveillance unless there is a very, very good reason.

            Like, it's not impossible that someone murdered him but there is 0 evidence for it or even a very good narrative for why, it seems far more likely that he just killed himself. He was more than 70 years old anyways, of course he doesn't want to die of old age in prison.

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            3 years ago

            They wont release any footage and it wont be suspicious in the slightest, because prisons dont have liveleak accounts and dont just post suicide footage online to "prove" to the masses that someone actually killed themselves.

            Also like the other guy said he wasnt on suicide watch, they arent on surveillance or constantly monitored because that would be a breach of privacy and personal integrity.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              You do show the lawyers involved with his ongoing defence that footage though. As well as the family when they're demanding an investigation into whose responsibility it is.

              The insides of cells aren't on surveillance but corridors are and a block is actively monitored and cells are regularly checked.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Everyone knows that if you tattoo something stupid on your arm theres literally no way you would ever change your mind, tattoos are legally binding he would never risk going to jail over tattoo fraud.