I'm not gonna lie as someone who leans anarchist this post pisses me off, lying to someone about what you believe to try to convince them is the definition of arguing in bad faith, and it's a manipulative tactic that reeks of arrogance.
If you feel like you need to lie to someone because they "just don't get it", you don't respect them as a person.
No, I'm doing it to protect my place in that community. I'm already an outsider, and saying "I'm a Marxist Leninist" would get me kicked. I'm pretending to be an orthodox Marxist just to challenge some views which don't make sense to me. That also means they have full ability to explain their positions.
I understand that it reeks of arrogance, but without me pretending to be an orthodox Marxist there wouldn't be any discussion anyway. This way we can at least try to find a middle ground.
You’re gonna have a hard time convincing people of anything if you’re just boldly in their face about what your ideas are. Certain words and titles are so off putting to people they’ll shut you out before letting you get a word in. Maybe you don’t need to lie per say, but you probably will need to couch you language a little if you don’t want to them running off.
What about when you lie/conceal to libs or more right leaning people about your true political alignment gradually bringing them closer to your position?
I'm not gonna lie as someone who leans anarchist this post pisses me off, lying to someone about what you believe to try to convince them is the definition of arguing in bad faith, and it's a manipulative tactic that reeks of arrogance.
If you feel like you need to lie to someone because they "just don't get it", you don't respect them as a person.
No, I'm doing it to protect my place in that community. I'm already an outsider, and saying "I'm a Marxist Leninist" would get me kicked. I'm pretending to be an orthodox Marxist just to challenge some views which don't make sense to me. That also means they have full ability to explain their positions.
I understand that it reeks of arrogance, but without me pretending to be an orthodox Marxist there wouldn't be any discussion anyway. This way we can at least try to find a middle ground.
Fair enough. I'm sorry those anarchists are so close minded.
You’re gonna have a hard time convincing people of anything if you’re just boldly in their face about what your ideas are. Certain words and titles are so off putting to people they’ll shut you out before letting you get a word in. Maybe you don’t need to lie per say, but you probably will need to couch you language a little if you don’t want to them running off.
Reminds me of this meme
What about when you lie/conceal to libs or more right leaning people about your true political alignment gradually bringing them closer to your position?
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