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  • davidr4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Animal-inclusive utopianism? Trying to perfectly engineer an environment where animals don't have to suffer from predators (non-human or human) while circumventing the downsides (overpopulation mainly) as much as possible. I could see a reclusive yet technologically advanced organisation, think the Institute from fo4, striving endlessly to turn a large piece of land into a completely peaceful haven for non-carnivorous animals. And they could be criticized for spending too much resources on non-humans, or the inherent eugenics-y aspect of deciding to create a space where obligate carnivores shouldn't exist, or for exerting too much control over the animals lives (they'd probably have to be sterilized to avoid overpopulation, with new animals created through human-controlled cloning). Idk if that helps because its a very utopian idea that may be out of place in your setting, but it could be interesting.

    There's also the question of intellectual property in a post-capitalist world. Like yes, it's a form of Capital and it's possible for people like JKR to make billions by gatekeeping who gets to make a film/merchandise , but at the same time creatives surely deserve some control over their work. So an ideology or ideological sect on each side of that debate could work.

      • davidr4 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Thanks :) The world gets kinda depressing if you care about animals because even if humans were all completely vegan and eco-friendly and shit, animals still rip each other apart (obviously still would be much better than animal ag and environmental destruction) so its nice to daydream about possible alternatives. But that naturally leads to questioning the logistics of it, which is where it gets interesting imo.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      non-carnivorous animals

      You could also include carnivorous animals. Just bio engineer self regulating plants which will drop a certain amount of meat that is flung around, while giving the carnivores aversion against all living creatures (big part and might contain "bad" smell for the others or so).

      Do we have nano bots? In this case you could also wire the brains of the animals to not kill others.

      For insects this might not work.

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Read a sci fi story published in playboy which was basically engineered beings who have the most pleasurable feelings while dying and being eaten (cause those that gladly do it have offspring, the other not). Fucked with my head for quite some time in terms of ethics.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      There’s also the question of intellectual property in a post-capitalist world. Like yes, it’s a form of Capital and it’s possible for people like JKR to make billions by gatekeeping who gets to make a film/merchandise , but at the same time creatives surely deserve some control over their work. So an ideology or ideological sect on each side of that debate could work.

      The solution to that is a better GIT. Everything is free (including the humiliation for doing fucked up things), however you still see who added certain somethings (and I disagree with that you have a right to control your creations).