A little bit of an op, a little bit of sincere people, who really want to change things, but since they are a product of their environment, they are afraid of anything remotely violent or confrontational, and have been brought up to believe that violence is bad, debate is king and change is achieved through peaceful protests and voting. I think there should be plenty of people that one can potentially radicalize there.
I think it should be noted, that many groups of XR are locally organized and may have their own politics ranging from lib-light to actual anti-capitalist/communists. I've definitely seen local XR accounts tweeting stuff like "capitalism is the root of our environmental catastrophy and there will be no solution without abolishing it", which is at least at a superficial level better than the pure lib approach.
no, for the love of god stop being such conspiratorial meatheads. they are privileged, naive idealists who believe the official lines. this should be obvious. im kinda concerned with you guys for trying to establish this line
They do shit like have their members commit vandalism then go turn themselves into the police. Whenever or not it's an out-and-out op the net effect is the same: it halts radical progress and turns its members over to the state.
XR’s totally an op right?
Either an op or bougie larpers with their heart in the right place but don’t know what they’re up against.
I'm gonna say both
It's always both
A little bit of an op, a little bit of sincere people, who really want to change things, but since they are a product of their environment, they are afraid of anything remotely violent or confrontational, and have been brought up to believe that violence is bad, debate is king and change is achieved through peaceful protests and voting. I think there should be plenty of people that one can potentially radicalize there.
I think it should be noted, that many groups of XR are locally organized and may have their own politics ranging from lib-light to actual anti-capitalist/communists. I've definitely seen local XR accounts tweeting stuff like "capitalism is the root of our environmental catastrophy and there will be no solution without abolishing it", which is at least at a superficial level better than the pure lib approach.
Th alternative is worse: They're serfs sacrificing themselves so the good feudal lord can rule
OPs use groups like XR as inspiration
no, for the love of god stop being such conspiratorial meatheads. they are privileged, naive idealists who believe the official lines. this should be obvious. im kinda concerned with you guys for trying to establish this line
They do shit like have their members commit vandalism then go turn themselves into the police. Whenever or not it's an out-and-out op the net effect is the same: it halts radical progress and turns its members over to the state.
counterpoint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_undercover_policing_relationships_scandal
if you think this kind of thing has magically stopped, you might be the meathead, bub
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"Every single member of an organization has to be a direct CIA operative in order for something to count as an op" :very-smart:
every single exhibition of liberal idiocy have to conceal some nefarious motive
What do you think qualifies something as being an op?
evidence
I'll keep that in mind in 50 years when the CIA releases a sanitized report that turns to ash the second it is exposed to outdoor air.
we are talking about white anglo liberals who believe non-violence is effective you just to reiterate this complete utter baffoon
why do they believe that? is the propaganda not an op?
spend more time with normal people wtf
do you think capitalists just leave XR alone and hope it continues to do what it's supposed to?
https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/05/06/extinction-rebellion-training-or-how-to-control-radical-resistance-from-the-obstructive-left/