It’s not even remotely at the top. Yeah there’s the glitzy pictures of the skyscrapers (built with poor engineering standards…don’t want to be caught in one during an earthquake or structural fire) and electric cars (also pretty bad) but things in rural China are much the same as they were 200 years ago. No indoor plumbing.

Culturally China has a long way to come. It’s still a pretty backwards place. Wealthy women believe rubbing crushed up human fetuses on their skin keeps them looking youthful. Manta rays have been fished almost to extinction because many Chinese believe their lungs hold healing powers. The Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward were so brutal that only the most cunning Chinese citizens survived. Dishonesty and deception are regularly accepted when dealing with others, especially when dealing with non Chinese. During The Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward many Chinese had to lie, steal and deceive just to survive so those are cultural norms.

Many say that Covid came from a lab, I don’t believe that. I think that a lack of basic sanitation practices coupled with high population density and the eating of non traditional animals (like pangolin) is where Covid came from. China just isn’t technologically capable of producing new viruses. There’s a lack of brainpower.

The economy is propped up by slave labor, artificial currency manipulation and IP theft. The government undertakes many massive infrastructure projects, which end up failing. To bail the government out, cheap labor is needed. It’s a never ending cycle.

Then there’s the government; it’s a communist kleptocracy. The politburo is a group of elites who scheme to subjugate citizens and have the wealth float to the top. Xi loyalists are rewarded. Those who go against the grain are purged.

China has an image problem. The rest of the world isn’t happy with the human rights abuses, pollution and bellicose rhetoric. It’s to the point where allies in Asia are pivoting away from China. Ties between Vietnam and the US are strengthening while ties between Vietnam and China are deteriorating rapidly.

Here’s the good news.

People in China know how messed up the system is. They want freedom of speech, they want democratic reforms. Smartphones are constantly capturing government abuses and people are starting to take notice. The Covid protests are an example of this. People started rioting and the government walked back its Zero Covid policy.

In the coming years people will continue to demand more and more freedoms. At that point China will have to embrace democracy. When that happens China will work closer with the US to solve global problems. That is when you will see it reach new heights instead of the facade you see now. Only then will it reach the top.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    I think this is my favorite part:

    The Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward were so brutal that only the most cunning Chinese citizens survived. Dishonesty and deception are regularly accepted when dealing with others, especially when dealing with non Chinese. During The Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward many Chinese had to lie, steal and deceive just to survive so those are cultural norms.

    My man took the concept of "scheming asiatics" and bolted a turbocharger and a NOS system to it.

    Fast and Furious Beijing Deceit, in theaters now

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    IP theft.

    quagsire-pog Me when I steal the ideas from inside your head.

    Anyone who uses "Intellectual Property" unironically should not be trusted. This includes people who use "IP." It's a bogus legal jargon that attempts to mix different facets of law into one.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    It's not even remotely at the top. Yeah there's the okayish view of the old skyscrapers (with rivers of hungry poor people moving between them...don't want to be caught downtown during a riot or mass shooting) and electric cars (also bombs) but things in rural America are the same as they were 200 years ago. No indoor plumbing.

    Culturally America has a long way to come. It's still a pretty backwards place. Wealthy women believe rubbing blended up human foreskins on their face will keep them looking youthful. Crabs have been fished nearly to extinction because many American believe a diet of nothing but meat contains fertility powers. The Great Depression and Red Scares were so brutal that only the most cunning American citizens survived. Dishonesty and deception are regularly accepted when dealing with others, especially when dealing with non whites. During the Great Depression and Red Scare, many Americans had to lie, steal and eat squirrels just to survive so those are cultural norms.

    Many say that covid came from a wet market, I don't believe that. I think that a lack of basic sanitation practices coupled with low education and the eating of mass-produced, prion-diseased animals (like cow) is where covid came from. America just isn't capable of controlling a viral outbreak. There's a lack of brainpower.

    The economy is propped up by slave labor, artificial currency manipulation, and oil piracy. The government undertakes no infrastructure projects whatsoever, and bridges end up collapsing. To bail the government out, strike breaking is needed. It's a vicious cycle.

    Then there's the government: it's a capitalist klepocracy. The donors are a group of elites who scheme to subjugate citizens and have the wealth float to the top. Sociopathic careerists are rewarded. Those who go against the grain are purged.

    America has an image problem. The rest of the world isn't happy with the human rights abuses, genocides and nuclear brinksmanship. It's to the point where allies in North America are pivoting away from the US. Ties between China and Mexico are strengthening while ties between Mexico and the US are deteriorating rapidly.

    Here's the good news:

    People in America know how messed up the situation is. They want a livable planet, they want unalienated human connection. Smartphones are constantly capturing government abuses and people are starting to take notice. The Black Lives Matter protests are an example of this. People started rioting and the government shit it's pants.

    In the coming years people will continue to demand basic human dignity. At this point America is already embracing mask-off fascism. When the contradictions become uncontainable the American empire will rend itself apart on a dozen far-flung campaigns of desperate animal retaliation. That is when you will see the birth of a genuine social paradigm instead of the facade you see now. Only then will it begin to be civillized.

  • robinn_IV
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    1 year ago

    Yep this is a Nazi

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    the eating of non traditional animals

    lol, they just had to put that in because those backward weirdos in China eat the wrong animals, and that's where diseases come from, they can't come from factory farming the correct animals like pigs and cows, which have never been known to be disease vectors.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    I don't know why I read this. I know you put a content warning on it, so it's not like I can complain about it, but damn. At least it got downvoted, which surprised me, I thought "debate communism" was one of those pseudo-leftist subreddits where they spend more time removed about AES than they do actually educating people on anything. I guess this guy forgot you need to use dogwhistles when saying Chinese people are inhuman oriental savages, or even reddit won't like how blatant you're being.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I'm not sure what the mods of the sub are about, but there are a lot of actual communists who give good answers to even the most ridiculous questions on there so it could be worse.

  • BGDelirium [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "During The Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward many Chinese had to lie, steal and deceive"

    Damn, so they're just like everyone's favorite wrestler, Eddie Guerrero? I love the Chinese even more now!

  • windowlicker [she/her]
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    i love the thread in the comments where he had to look up the statistics around energy access in china, saw multiple sources saying 100%, and refused to believe it. its too hard for him to consider that a government would put lots of resources and effort into improving people's livelihoods, so that ALL of its citizens can have access to electricity.

    also i just noticed this.

    China just isn’t technologically capable of producing new viruses.

    its obviously just blatant racism and sinophobia, but this is factually untrue. china ranks number 1 in the world for output of scientific research right now. when the pandemic happened, the initial research on it (and the complete genetic sequencing of the first strain) was done almost entirely by chinese scientists. i can personally attest that a large amount of the research being put out in my field currently are from chinese researchers.

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      History ended in the early 1990s, remember? That means that China has had 0 development since back then, it's been frozen in time.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I've seen this person in that sub before and it's the same every time, just a complete refusal to accept anything else than whatever he's just made up lol

  • Rom [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The rest of the world isn’t happy with the human rights abuses, pollution and bellicose rhetoric.

    projection

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    built with poor engineering standards…don’t want to be caught in one during an earthquake or structural fire

    as opposed to in the west where you would?

    Wealthy women believe rubbing crushed up human fetuses on their skin keeps them looking youthful

    every accusation a confession

    Many say that Covid came from a lab, I don’t believe that. I think that a lack of basic sanitation practices coupled with high population density and the eating of non traditional animals (like pangolin) is where Covid came from. China just isn’t technologically capable of producing new viruses. There’s a lack of brainpower

    literally just called them cunning a sentence ago. Also China is as old as ancient Egypt how the bloody hell are the things they do not old enough to be traditional. plus racism

    artificial currency manipulation and IP theft

    in their defence both of these are cool and funny

  • AnarchoAnarchist [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    ties between Vietnam and China are deteriorating rapidly.

    They were at war with each other like 40 years ago, surely that was the low point in their relationship, right?