It's always weird gymdads who walk up to you and tell you "you're doing this completely wrong, stop doing it" but never tell you why. I'm convinced a lot of them don't even really know what is right or wrong, they just get an ego boost saying that. Like, cool, thanks for letting me know I'm doing it wrong, but, y'know, since you know the right way to do it, shouldn't you at least tell me what is wrong instead of just saying it is wrong?

That's why I was motivated to learn the proper way to do stuff, so that even if they come to me again, I can just explain them why they are wrong instead.

Whoah, guess it worked.

  • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    That's why I only ever train with old and rusty equipment in the dusty basement of my comrade to the sound of the Internationale. Gyms are haram and smug gymdudes teaching questionable form while entirely sure of themselves can be actually dangerous

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well it's not like they actually teach you anything they just pop in to say "you're doing it wrong" in an over the top deadly serious tone that sounds like they are announcing to their family they have lung cancer and fucking disappear lol

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        The jacked ghost that slides in through your basement wall rattling invisible chains and just screams "OoOOOooOO yoU'RE doinG IT wrONG! OOOooOOO!" and then disappears back through the wall. Help me, spectre of fitness, what am I doing wrong?

      • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I'm torn between 'lucky you, not having to listen to their shit' and getting that it's still real annoying behaviour... Maybe consider heavy headphones and/or giving everyone approaching you a territorial grunt in advance?

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I wear headphones which fit very well and as a result cancel most noise, the issue is that I often get someone asking me if I'm using something or whatever and all I see is a moving mouth so I'm not sure what they are saying but also I can't remove my headphones because I'm doing something else so I just end up nodding non descriptively and they get confused lol

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah honestly it's annoying how despite there being so many people there somehow it's still impossible to learn anything properly from anyone, not even the staff there who are almost impossible to find anyways. Even if you do get hold of them, the most they're gonna do is scribble a stupid program for you which won't make much sense, which checks out because you actually don't have to know anything about anything to be hired. At some point I figured out hey, what do I do when I want to learn something properly? I read books by people who know wtf they are talking about. Then I realized how stupid most of the advice was. Wow great program there buddy, I'm sure that 12-15 rep range is gonna help me get bigger and stronger and it's not just gonna make me miserable working through these huge sets.

              • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Yea, commercial gyms in general really have no incentive to teach you much; hell they're most profitable when as many members as possible don't even show up. If it wasn't so dangerous re: doxxing, we could do form checks here, especially for more complex compound lifts.

                I kinda get why they always advice these hypertrophy rep ranges; people will generally use less weight and have less chance to hurt themselves badly, when they do it wrong - because they haven't been taught, of course.

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  I kinda get why they always advice these hypertrophy rep ranges; people will generally use less weight and have less chance to hurt themselves badly, when they do it wrong - because they haven’t been taught, of course

                  Yes, I remember when one of them gave me a program and then I was like, wtf I don't even know what half of that shit is, but then I couldn't find the dude to ask him. A 15 rep range is basically an endurance rep range, it won't really help much with hypertrophy and it's fucking miserable, not to mention hard to progressively overload. So of course it wasn't doing much for me and I feel kinda dumb for not deciding to try and figure things out earlier. I moved closer to 12 reps after some time because I figured that 15 is just too hard, but it was much later until I realized 4-8 reps is actually better.

                  Also most of the machines are stupid.

                  • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    It's, I think, a good idea to do a high volume endurance workout every once in a while, like maybe once a month or so. But generally, I stick to 5x5 for compounds and aim for about 8 reps for isolation stuff. So yeah, I'm with you on that.

                    Also, holy shit how stupid are most of the machines they have? Just pick up a bar jfc

                    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      "But machines are safer" lmao no they're not, tell that to my shoulder.

  • MedicareForSome [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I've had a guy come and explain to me that I'm breathing wrong because I was exhaling when lifting and inhaling when lowering when it doesn't even matter what you do when you're doing normal lifting as long as you're comfortable and to top it off I was actually breathing the way that he was instructing me to breathe.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      How was he instructing you to breathe? Generally you actually want to not breath through the movement, but instead do the Valsalva maneuver and only breathe at the shrot pause between reps. It's true though that for very light weight it doesn't matter a lot, but generally you want to do the VM to better stabilise your spine.

      • MedicareForSome [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I was using the VM which confused him so he told me that I had swapped inhaling and exhaling because my inhales and exhales were pretty much identical grunts.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Sounds a little bit hyperbolic, like, it's annoying but it is pretty infrequent and not nearly bad enough to make someone quit.

  • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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    3 years ago

    Feel blessed that I've never really had that experience. Any time someone's talked to me about my form, they've been chill and given me solid, understandable pointers.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This has actually happened to me once, but just once...