it is incredibly important to have a state media apparatus that is robust and covers all facets of life, so that INCREDIBLY STUPID PEOPLE DONT HAVE PLATFORMS. like holy fucking shit, on live national tv theyre saying you should confront people who wear masks like theyre the devil! i am 100% down for communist brainwashing at this point. nothing else will work, you just have to tell the stupid people whats what and offer no other opinions. if you dont have a media apparatus, your society will become absolutely unhinged. i want there to be 200 communist tv broadcasts constantly blaring propaganda to drown out any dumbass remarks being made

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Also fun fact: the greatest resistance to that clown were the New Atheist proto-chuds and their academic compatriots. If only they were popular leftists instead of weird racist imperialists, maybe we'd be rid of this shit.

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        In ten years breadtube will be 100% imperialism

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah that asshole destroyed so many people for a shitty scheme that didn't even really work, there is simply no justice in a society where he isn't tried in Nuremberg like a high ranking nazi officer or something.

  • BigAssBlueBug [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Nominally I am an anarchist

    However, after the covid issue, I am also unironically in support of 100% evil gommunism that libs think we all are. I am for that unironically now.

  • kristina [she/her]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    also fucking CZECHIA, like what the fuck. they are really competing to be slavic america. the communists back in the day, what the fuck! you should have fought harder you damn boomers. the media there is fuckin unhinged right now, maybe even worse than tucker carlson

    • kristina [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      for real i read a headline on google czechia and they said that we should 'round up' the roma to avoid another covid spike and i got so fucking pissed that i posted shit here

        • kristina [she/her]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          i like czechia its kinda close to how we pronounce our country, and czech republic is a big mouthful. and calling it czecho would be weird in english

          we would just constantly use the czech name for it which is Česko before

            • kristina [she/her]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              maybe... doesnt sound right in english to me though, czechia im fine with

                • kristina [she/her]
                  hexagon
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                  3 years ago

                  like if our country ended with an a in our language i think itd work in english, like Česká republika is our country name, but Ceska is an adjective so like, it would work in english if it wasnt an adjective? i think czechia is the way to go. alternative i guess could be czechland or something but czechia has less german connotation to it

                    • kristina [she/her]
                      hexagon
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                      3 years ago

                      most country names have an o at the end for czech, so like poland is Polsko. Germany is Nemecko. Austria is Rakousko. Scotland is Skotsko. Greece is Recko. there are a couple of outliers, england is Anglie and France is Francie.

                        • kristina [she/her]
                          hexagon
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                          3 years ago

                          yeah as the typical flat form, tbh i was never formally instructed in czech so i dont know shit about the grammar lmao. im just fluent off of family and have been learning how to spell and do grammar myself over time

                            • kristina [she/her]
                              hexagon
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                              3 years ago

                              i wish my grandma taught me all the languages she knew when i was a kid... she knows english, german, polish, czech, slovak, and hungarian, all more or less fluently. though she said she hates speaking hungarian the most, she has a grudge

                                • kristina [she/her]
                                  hexagon
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                                  3 years ago

                                  yeah she kinda just doesnt talk about why she hates speaking hungarian now. she did a lot of language teaching in her 20s and 30s because she lived in a lot of mixed communities

                                    • kristina [she/her]
                                      hexagon
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                                      3 years ago

                                      yeah kinda wish she was around to give me more formal lessons, oh well, was a miss on that one

        • kristina [she/her]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          smh i hate it when i post something 2 hours ago and then someone asks for the link and my browser history has already grown by like 500 tabs with similar looking links

          • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            tbh loud voices in Czechia have been saying shit like that for years and our excellent Roma agitprop resident has it covered either way :)

    • hexbearsixtynine [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      yeah and what is the deal with their gun law culture? there were dozens of reddit propaganda posts where americans larping in eurosubs celebrated some new gun laws or some shit. whast up with that

      • kristina [she/her]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        its weird. its not particularly hard to get a gun there, CZ is a very big manufacturer and employs a lot of people. you can also get CZs quite a bit cheaper there than in america. czechia has what is essentially a 'right to bear arms' amendment to our constitution though it isnt as wide ranging as in america

        still harder to get a gun there than in most places in america. the EU is all angsty about czechia's gun laws too because theres an illegal gun trade that is centered around czechia

  • sergiostweest [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I think there's a decent argument for stuff like covid to be treated more like hurricane advisories, amber alerts, or other public safety notices where they supersede the normal news apparatus. We currently don't get paralyzed by a giant debate on if Hurricane Irma is real or if the missing kid actually exist. It was a mistake for Fauci to play media darling and for the CDC to have news disseminate through the cable networks. Should've just been alerts to everyone's devices and then regular official press conferences.

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I was telling my dad about this with the BBC. He said that some people have to be platformed because they have to stay "balanced".

      I pointed out that they literally do not have to. When reporting on the weather they don't have someone else on to say "it's actually going to rain on Tuesday" because it's not a fucking opinion.

      If you need that viewpoint noted then have an expert on to appear on screen and say "these peoples views are literally insane and detached from reality" and then you're good to go. Don't platform them ever.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    For every manchild bitching about masks I become 1% more tankie

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I know I said I'd cool it with the GDR-posting, but whatever, I've been thinking about them a lot recently. So the thing with them is, Honecker and the SED were constantly worried about the impact of capitalist propaganda from the west, and did what they could to stop it. And by 1989, the population of the GDR seemed more or less fed up with the SED, travel restrictions, censorship, etc. Depsite the fact that polls showed the people of the GDR still overwhelmingly supported socialism.

    But the thing is... weren't the SED and the communists who felt the restrictions were a necessary evil proven right? I mean the West Germans poured tons of money into the first election after 1989, made tons of promises (that they never kept), and then the fucking CDU destroyed the SED/SDU in the election? How does that happen in a country where the population ostensibly wants socialism even in they want a change in leadership? The only answer I can come up with is that the capitalist propaganda was just too overwhelming.

  • Eldungeon [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Agreed. I kinda think the bourgeoisie thinks that having a few million residents of the US die is perhaps unfortunate but not worth stopping the spice flow

  • glk [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    They're not stupid, they are acting according to their world-view, which is distorted to absurdity by life under capitalism.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I would point out that there is a cultural/historical element to this beyond just dumb people being selfish, you can look at East Asian countries even neoliberal hell like Japan/SK, a completely different culture where people will gladly wear masks even for a mild cold and I don't think they needed complete control of state media to achieve that. Here is a random article about this.

    Obviously there are historical factors but the point is that just because the US is having to start from square -12513516 doesn't mean these are ideal solutions. I agree that at this point for a society that is built around sacred ideas of freedom and selfishness the solutions definitely need to be drastic.

    But the fundamental premise that you need to protect dumb people from their opinion is more of a temporary thing rather than an absolute concept. You can change culture, and culture will change behaviour regardless of intelligence. The US problem is a culture tailored for capitalist interests. Change that and we will never have to worry about dumb people and their platforms.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      People in East Asia are used to wearing masks because of frequent respiratory disease outbreaks for decades. In many places they wear them to protect themselves from air pollution actually.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yes air pollution is definitely a factor(e.g China) but in some cases it predates that, in Japan the habit is even older..

        But the single most important event that elevated masks from being a luxury item to an everyday product for the masses was the Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions around the world between 1918 and 1920.

        In Japan alone, 450,000 perished according to some estimates, with an additional 280,000 believed to have died on the Korean Peninsula and in Taiwan, which were under colonial Japanese rule at the time.

        Saburo Shochi, a famously long-lived academic, was often interviewed about his experience during the pandemic. In a story that ran on Nikkei Medical in 2008, the 90th anniversary of the start of the Spanish flu outbreak, Shochi recalled losing his classmates to “the bad cold.” Shochi said most of his family, including himself, then around 10 years old, caught the disease and were unable to get out of the futon for days. The infectious nature of the virus eventually became known, and people started wearing masks, which seemed to offer protection from the influenza, he said.

        Educational posters from the period feature slogans such as “reckless are those who don’t wear masks.” And for those who couldn’t afford to buy masks, newspapers began giving instructions on how to make them at home, much like the online mask-making tutorials that flourished during Japan’s latest mask shortage.

    • black_mold_futures [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Obviously there are historical factors but

      read Marx, idealist libs

      You can change culture,

      You cannot change the superstructure, it doesn't actually exist outside of the material base.

  • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    :sicko-lenin:

    Sorry for the pain, comrade. Welcome to our super cool and initially depressed club though, lol.

    The modern West is particularly brainwormed. It's a fractal of brainworms, brainworms to exploit and distract from every level of oppression and alienation such that very few recognize how their experience is shared and systemic and shaking them out of it usually requires trauma. With luck and effort, we can build a pipeline that requires less of that trauma, hopefully, and can actually resistance oppression more and more effective until we win.

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    People who work in pro corporate news need to go to gulag.