Long answer coming up. This is my morning coffee writing here.
I know an anti-vaxx family which lives down the road. The guy is a white millennial / Gen Xer small business owner. I can't reveal his business because it's so specific to this area I would doxx myself, but climate change basically guarantees that he'll be out of a job within ten to twenty years.
His wife is from California and she is absolutely the cliché Californian. A thin pretty hippy with blue hair, no joke. Although she is white, she calls herself a shaman and actually set up like an "alternative medicine" retail place about a year before the pandemic started. I believe she had to shut the place down but I assume her business is still actually thriving out of her home. (Before the pandemic, my state had one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country.) They have a pretty nice house because the guy has family all over the place here possibly going back centuries.
The guy has like twenty kids from eight different marriages. I know a bunch of his kids however and they're all wonderful. I believe most of them are actually vaccinated since their dad only went over the deep end a few years ago. Their youngest kid is my son's age and I believe he has not been vaccinated at all, which horrifies me. When I first met this kid, I thought he was almost my son's twin. He's a beautiful wonderful guy who deserves so much more. His parents had to pull him out of school because the state requires kids to get their shots in order to attend.
These two parents were actually really nice and seemed relatively leftwing—unless we talked about vaccines. Then they would just go on—literally for hours—about how there's poison in the vaccines and Big Pharma is just trying to make us all sick and give us autism. The wife also has kids from who knows how many other marriages and she claimed that one of them had gotten sick from vaccines. Of course, when I actually questioned her about this, it turned out that the sickness had been minor and that it actually wasn't clear at all that being vaccinated had caused any issues. And if they had caused any issues, you can actually sue the manufacturers!
They talked a lot about this doctor named Toni Bark who sold $500 alternative medicine remedies on her website and also traveled around the country to testify in vaccine custody cases (where parents basically get divorced because one has had their brain melted on Facebook). She charged $500 per hour to do this, plus expenses. Toni Bark had all these videos where she would go on and on about how yoga and her sugar-free all-natural organic vegan gluten-free diet was making it impossible for her to get sick. Then she got esophageal cancer a year or so before the pandemic and died. She actually claimed that the cancer came from a vaccine she had received twenty years before. Science. Who needs it?
When I talked about vaccines with this couple I got absolutely nowhere until I told them about the origins of innoculation (among traditional Chinese healers) and how Cuba is famous for manufacturing their own miraculous vaccines. Cuba itself is outside of Big Pharma's power so it acts as proof that vaccines are not always automatically bad. This argument made them pause for maybe a moment, but then they just went back to the usual BS.
Ultimately their brainworms have a psychological and economic origin. Both of these people are, as with many many many anti-vaxxers, aging white petite bourgeois parents of small children with way too much time on their hands. Because their lives of exploitation are ultimately so boring and meaningless (and increasingly precarious), Facebook ensnared them and drove them out of their minds in order to make a few more bucks for shareholders. Reasoning with them is pointless because of the material origins of their psychological malady. Nothing short of re-education camps will help these people.
We stopped talking with each other before the pandemic started. I ran into the dad at the post office around six months ago and he was like: "Are you ready for the covid vaccine?" At the time, a lot of liberals people thought the vaccine was going to suck because Trump was the one behind it. This makes me think that if Trump had won the election, the USA's covid vaccination rate would have been much lower than it already is. I actually didn't have an answer for this guy at the time, although of course I got vaccinated as soon as I could.
Because their lives of exploitation are ultimately so boring and meaningless (and increasingly precarious), Facebook ensnared them and drove them out of their minds in order to make a few more bucks for shareholders. Reasoning with them is pointless because of the material origins of their psychological malady. Nothing short of re-education camps will help these people.
This is literally my opinion, although you expressed it way better than I did.
interestingly, I think the vaccination rates may have been higher among the unmasked population, so that could still have a net positive effect overall. The people that have at least somewhat been responding to the pandemic as a problem of physiology and not just of american politics would get the shot either way, as they have now. People who are liberals and wouldn;t get the shot either wouldn't have anyway or are likely very much using hand sanitizer and masks all the time. people who are chuds either wouldn't get the vaccine anyway or might trust their big wet boy and get it, reducing spreading. IDK maybe he'd never release it who knows?
Long answer coming up. This is my morning coffee writing here.
I know an anti-vaxx family which lives down the road. The guy is a white millennial / Gen Xer small business owner. I can't reveal his business because it's so specific to this area I would doxx myself, but climate change basically guarantees that he'll be out of a job within ten to twenty years.
His wife is from California and she is absolutely the cliché Californian. A thin pretty hippy with blue hair, no joke. Although she is white, she calls herself a shaman and actually set up like an "alternative medicine" retail place about a year before the pandemic started. I believe she had to shut the place down but I assume her business is still actually thriving out of her home. (Before the pandemic, my state had one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country.) They have a pretty nice house because the guy has family all over the place here possibly going back centuries.
The guy has like twenty kids from eight different marriages. I know a bunch of his kids however and they're all wonderful. I believe most of them are actually vaccinated since their dad only went over the deep end a few years ago. Their youngest kid is my son's age and I believe he has not been vaccinated at all, which horrifies me. When I first met this kid, I thought he was almost my son's twin. He's a beautiful wonderful guy who deserves so much more. His parents had to pull him out of school because the state requires kids to get their shots in order to attend.
These two parents were actually really nice and seemed relatively leftwing—unless we talked about vaccines. Then they would just go on—literally for hours—about how there's poison in the vaccines and Big Pharma is just trying to make us all sick and give us autism. The wife also has kids from who knows how many other marriages and she claimed that one of them had gotten sick from vaccines. Of course, when I actually questioned her about this, it turned out that the sickness had been minor and that it actually wasn't clear at all that being vaccinated had caused any issues. And if they had caused any issues, you can actually sue the manufacturers!
They talked a lot about this doctor named Toni Bark who sold $500 alternative medicine remedies on her website and also traveled around the country to testify in vaccine custody cases (where parents basically get divorced because one has had their brain melted on Facebook). She charged $500 per hour to do this, plus expenses. Toni Bark had all these videos where she would go on and on about how yoga and her sugar-free all-natural organic vegan gluten-free diet was making it impossible for her to get sick. Then she got esophageal cancer a year or so before the pandemic and died. She actually claimed that the cancer came from a vaccine she had received twenty years before. Science. Who needs it?
When I talked about vaccines with this couple I got absolutely nowhere until I told them about the origins of innoculation (among traditional Chinese healers) and how Cuba is famous for manufacturing their own miraculous vaccines. Cuba itself is outside of Big Pharma's power so it acts as proof that vaccines are not always automatically bad. This argument made them pause for maybe a moment, but then they just went back to the usual BS.
Ultimately their brainworms have a psychological and economic origin. Both of these people are, as with many many many anti-vaxxers, aging white petite bourgeois parents of small children with way too much time on their hands. Because their lives of exploitation are ultimately so boring and meaningless (and increasingly precarious), Facebook ensnared them and drove them out of their minds in order to make a few more bucks for shareholders. Reasoning with them is pointless because of the material origins of their psychological malady. Nothing short of re-education camps will help these people.
We stopped talking with each other before the pandemic started. I ran into the dad at the post office around six months ago and he was like: "Are you ready for the covid vaccine?" At the time, a lot of
liberalspeople thought the vaccine was going to suck because Trump was the one behind it. This makes me think that if Trump had won the election, the USA's covid vaccination rate would have been much lower than it already is. I actually didn't have an answer for this guy at the time, although of course I got vaccinated as soon as I could.This is literally my opinion, although you expressed it way better than I did.
interestingly, I think the vaccination rates may have been higher among the unmasked population, so that could still have a net positive effect overall. The people that have at least somewhat been responding to the pandemic as a problem of physiology and not just of american politics would get the shot either way, as they have now. People who are liberals and wouldn;t get the shot either wouldn't have anyway or are likely very much using hand sanitizer and masks all the time. people who are chuds either wouldn't get the vaccine anyway or might trust their big wet boy and get it, reducing spreading. IDK maybe he'd never release it who knows?
lol lmao