• acealeam [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    the top comment in that thread is "not true. trump also supported terrorism (jan 6th)."

    Uhm.

    • acealeam [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Holy shit!

      I've noticed a lot of Leftist often can't distinguish between harm caused by US presidents internationally vs internally. That is to say one person killed by the US abroad is equal to one killed at home. Though this outlook isn't bad in itself, I think most people would agree that a leaders primarily responsibility is to protect their own citizens first, so harm caused by a leader to their own people is a greater violation.

      Donald Trump is pretty much responsible for killing 600,000+ Americans through his mismanagement and deliberate misinformation. This is a harm he perpetuated against his own citizens. Not to mention this number is comparable to deaths incurred in Iraq for example. The Iraq Body Count Project estimates that a total of 208,547 Iraqi civilians died as a result of the Iraq War, with total deaths starting around 600,000 too.

      average vaushite. I've noticed a lot of leftists dont value american lives over other people's lives, is there anything we can do to fix this???

        • Vncredleader
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          3 years ago

          Badempanada picked through another Shaun freakout thread on vaushite reddit and began to get legitimately pissed and disgusted by how openly those fuckers argued that foreigners count as less than americans

          • Madcat [any]
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            3 years ago

            was that on a youtube video or something?

            • Vncredleader
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              3 years ago

              enjoy the agony and fury https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7dWsYIebIo

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
        hexagon
        MA
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        3 years ago

        lot of leftists dont value american lives over other people’s lives,

        That is because communists on principle are internationalists. Our allegiance is to the workers of the world, not just of your home country.

        This goes back to the Second Internationale where the Communists and socialists split over the question of whether to support the proletariat in your home country by helping them win whatever slaughterhouse war the bougeoise send them into vs sending the bougeoise into the slaughterhouse to end their wars for the proletariat worldwide to win.

        This is why the Left dispises electoralism for the theatrical play that it performs to distract the masses from the crimes against humanity committed in their name by the State.

        • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah its pretty obvious these Vaushite people are liberals, cosplaying their anticommunism as radicalism.

      • want_tobegood [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        The Iraq Body Count Project estimates that a total of 208,547 Iraqi civilians died as a result of the Iraq War

        which means it's 2 million minimum

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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          3 years ago

          All those numbers only include the deaths that the military willingly labeled "civilian". They totally ignore all of the "collateral damage" "military age" murders.

        • sun [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Rumsfeld told Congress in a hearing he estimated 1.2 million

      • femboi [they/them, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Jesus, incredible how they can go from “leaders should prioritize providing basic services for their own citizens before providing international aid” to “killing innocent foreigners is fine as long as no white people were killed” without batting an eye

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        As if the US covid disaster was caused by Donald Trump being a baddie and not by the material conditions of US class society. Hundreds of thousands would have died under a Clinton presidency as well.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      This post is in honour of the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan.