https://twitter.com/NakedSavior/status/1435220531922579457

Update I found the OP https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1434936396096028674

  • cokedupchavez [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    hahahah i fucking knew that some dipshit would twist a post like this to an opportunity to spread misinformation promoting ICEs

    https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-electric-vehicles-help-to-tackle-climate-change

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Please tell me in what world is buying a brand new Tesla more environmentally friendly than buying a second hand car. Of course electric engines are much, much more efficient and environmentally friendly than ICEs, I never claimed otherwise, but that doesn't account for the rest of the car, and the resources needed to build it. Nevermind no one can afford a Tesla anyway.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Also the whole point is though that when you buy a second hand car, a new car is not being manufactured, so it eliminates that blue manufacturing bar at the bottom of the graph from the equation. And how many Tesla owners will actually drive their car for 150 000km/94 000 miles before buying a new car, which is the measurement the study is using to measure lifetime emissions? Not much, these people get a new car every two years like it's a smartphone or something.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              There are plenty of post 2003 vehicles with no surveillance and repairability issues. My 2014 Mitsubishi is basically a monkey wrechable shitbox with a hacked together Bluetooth headunit.

              I decompiled the firmware for it and it's literally so poorly coded and designed that I'd be amazed if they managed to get anything out of it lol. It literally ships with emacs installed because whoever built it never pulled that package from the final build lmao

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The dude in the tweet literally talks about his "other Tesla". They buy the newest model whenever it comes out.

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Same here, but do you really think your average Tesla owner is going to hold onto a car for that long. Especially when Tesla releases a new model? These people are like cultists for Elon Musk and Tesla

        • cokedupchavez [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          above is incorrect on two accounts, and this comment identical to fossil lobby talking points. i expect much greater diligence in consumer-centered carbon politics from this site.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Again, your article is measuring the emissions over the course of 150 000km/94 000 miles. How many Tesla owners, do you think, are going to drive their cars for that long before buying a new one? I can tell you now it's not many. And the whole point in the argument of buying a second hand car is that there is not a need for a new car to be manufactured. The whole point is that your average Tesla owner (not EVs in general, Tesla) is not really doing much here.

    • andys_nuts [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      :cringe:

      Interesting article, but what a trash way to talk to a comrade. You're not on reddit.