I absolutely hate it when a long running nerd franchise tries to explain away "plot holes" and inconsistencies that exist purely due to off-screen real-world production reasons with piles of contrived lore
We'll never know, but I personally think it would've if it had gotten those 3 seasons like all the others. It ended just as the show really kinda found itself and things were heating up with it's main plot.
I think of it like if DS9 got canceled in season 4 and we never got it at it's absolute best. (Not saying Enterprise is overall comparable to DS9, just that they had similar momentum imo).
Either that or if they knew they only had 4 seasons going in. Considering the previous three shows all got 7 they probably thought they could take their time more. Pretty sure a big part of season 4 being so cramped with lore stuff was because they were saving some of it for later on.
If we include EVERY Trek then I think Star Trek Online story used to be regarded by far as having the best writing post Voyager. I played a bit of that game back in the day and it was fun enough. They handled the timeline realy well I think and there is a lot of good original content in that game.
But if we limit to just TV/movies sure that is not a particularly high bar when you are comparing Nemesis+Enterprise and then JJ shitverse and all Kurtzman trash.
Nobody really argues against the idea that Trek peaked with TNG/DS9 TV series, most TNG movies are controversial etc.
Yeah, while I don't think he cares for any of the more recent Trek stuff he cares even less for angry chud turbonerds writing essay-long screeds about it
Lower Decks is the best Treck has been since the nineties, fite me will
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Are you implying Enterprise wasn't good, good sir?
Enterprise was really fucking bad
You don't have faith of the heart.
Overall I think it's better than Voyager at least imo.
I disagree but Im seriously turned off by the gross male gazey sexuality
Fair enough, that is a legitimate downside.
All the cool lore about the beginnings of the Federation makes up for it's flaws for me at least.
Explaining early Klingon costumes/makeup was a mistake. Like Roddenberry said, they always looked like TNG, you just couldn't see it before.
I absolutely hate it when a long running nerd franchise tries to explain away "plot holes" and inconsistencies that exist purely due to off-screen real-world production reasons with piles of contrived lore
Also while voyager had some fascist impulses enterprise sure expanded those
I just think Voyager had a ton of wasted potential with it's concept is all.
Yeah they were supposed to make it a serial, but the producers refused
So did Enterprise but it has the excuse of getting cancelled.
We'll never know, but I personally think it would've if it had gotten those 3 seasons like all the others. It ended just as the show really kinda found itself and things were heating up with it's main plot.
I think of it like if DS9 got canceled in season 4 and we never got it at it's absolute best. (Not saying Enterprise is overall comparable to DS9, just that they had similar momentum imo).
Either that or if they knew they only had 4 seasons going in. Considering the previous three shows all got 7 they probably thought they could take their time more. Pretty sure a big part of season 4 being so cramped with lore stuff was because they were saving some of it for later on.
If we include EVERY Trek then I think Star Trek Online story used to be regarded by far as having the best writing post Voyager. I played a bit of that game back in the day and it was fun enough. They handled the timeline realy well I think and there is a lot of good original content in that game.
But if we limit to just TV/movies sure that is not a particularly high bar when you are comparing Nemesis+Enterprise and then JJ shitverse and all Kurtzman trash.
Nobody really argues against the idea that Trek peaked with TNG/DS9 TV series, most TNG movies are controversial etc.
Did they actually make Star Trek work as an MMO? That’s pretty cool.
Tbf, I think he's being sarcastic if you look at his responses further down the thread.
Yeah, while I don't think he cares for any of the more recent Trek stuff he cares even less for angry chud turbonerds writing essay-long screeds about it
Agree. It's a good show