• volkvulture [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        oh right... democracy & socialism is about how special & smart you are as an individual lol

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          ahh yes, the right of refusal is real socialism. cast aside collective demands for common health - what matters is the individual. this is socialism. :thonk:

          you're arguing for property rights, liberal.

                • Spike [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Except that vaccinated people are less likely to spread the virus and less likely to become infected while also being less likely to be symptomatic or die if they do get the virus.

                  https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-09-24/covid-vaccines-do-they-change-risk-of-infection/100484432

                  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

                  https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583

                  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.12.21261991v1

                  I can link more if you'd like.

                  You're literally wrong but you're too stubborn to believe otherwise because you have a parasocial attachment to an antivax grifter. Grow up.

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-28/getting-vaccinated-doesn-t-stop-people-from-spreading-delta

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    No, the most recent studies say that unvaccinated & vaccinated people are equally susceptible & equally capable of spreading the virus once infected

                    but severity of individual cases is reduced in Vaccinated persons

                    https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people

                    "Although vaccinated people with a breakthrough infection are much less likely to become severely ill than unvaccinated, the new study shows that they can be carrying similar amounts of virus and could potentially spread the virus to other people. This study did not directly address how easily vaccinated people can get infected with SARS-CoV-2, or how readily someone with a breakthrough infection can transmit the virus. "

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    "“Although vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease and deaths from COVID-19, our findings suggest that vaccination is not sufficient to prevent transmission of the delta variant in household settings with prolonged exposures,” the study said."

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    No, unvaccinated people are just as likely to become infected & spread the virus, but not as likely to have advanced or severe symptoms

            • silent_water [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              this country is a settler state founded on genocide and slavery. consent is nowhere to be found in it's legal system. it's founded on property rights and especially the right to dispose of one's property as the owner prefers. the framework you're referring to extended those rights to include the body as one's property in place of anything resembling informed consent. you are defending property rights.

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Cuba's flag was designed by someone who defended slavery & wanted Cuba to join the USA as a slave state

                Did you know that Cuba had slavery 100 years before Anglo North America did and that indigenous removal was as bad there as anywhere?

                Cuba didn't change its flag after the revolution

                Is Cuba allowed to be socialist even though Spaniard colonial-settlers still live there & genocide happened?