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  • P00h_Beard [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Remember when Marx hated guns so much that be purchased a bunch of them for revolutionaries in Germany?

    • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Okay I remember hearing about this a long time ago but I don't know where I saw and Google isn't helping me out, do you have a source for this

      • Funkydick [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Google, the censored search engine, can't find it?

        Quelle surprise.

        Use Qwant.com, the European answer to Google.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    insert marx quote and explain why keeping the working class armed is good

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I do sometimes wonder about the difference between a working class armed/not surrendering arms and a working class that has consumptive armament habits.

      Marx was specifically talking about not surrendering arms. Which is what you'd be told to do when a war ended or you lost a battle (literally line up and drop your weapons in a pile).

      Is elimination of a commodified gun market the same as surrendering arms?

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Guns only have power when they're part of an organized, principled resistance/revolutionary army that's prepared to take on the mantle of state. Otherwise they're just another luxury commodity.

          • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Guns have power when organized into a semi-competent militia as well. A small but organized group with open carry rifles is intimidating to cops in a good way.

            It is also the start of a community defense group in case reactionaries get the idea to act like brownshirts.

            You also simply aren't going to get a principled revolutionary army directly, it will be built in peace times from groups like the above or from a civil war.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Exactly, almost an successful revolutions occurred during or right after war. Revolutionary defeatism can spread through a national guard or military pretty quick once they start dying and aren't even getting paid.

              Military coup works too, anything that leverages radicalized workers in a state organized armed body.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Probably a patriotic socialist going by that avatar:kombucha-disgust:

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    ...it's me. I think we should get rid of all our guns. I mean, I know it will never happen. I think the US would be a better country if we went back to swords for our public mass killings

  • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    You know, as horrible as these people are, I think it's a good symptom that people even want to use Marx's name incorrectly.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I think it’s a good symptom that people even want to use Marx’s name incorrectly.

      Sadly, Kautskyites have been doing that for over a century.

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean, it's not good, but as a barometer of "general interest in Marx", it's good sign. Like, these people are an issue but they're an indicator that there's something going on that could be good if we push it in the right direction.