The US is already killing millions of people, by doing only one of the 7 or 8 things that need to be done to stop a virus (vaccines). And worse, Biden has taken the very few, bare minimum, shitty meager protections for poor people that Trump did during quarantine (rent moratorium, PUA weekly stipends) and swept them into the garbage can.
I get the impression it's not a popular opinion here, I think, but vaccine mandates, absent all that other stuff, are a waste of time and will disproportionately hurt poor people and minorities. They are not leftist. They are (a) an attempt by a corrupt, shitty administration to "make up for" not doing anything humane with regards to coronavirus; and (b) an action plan to keep open the businesses that bribe both parties in the US government and tell them what to do, so that they don't hemorrhage more money like in 2020.
I hate to see hordes of comrades supporting mandates. I am vaccinated and pro-vaccine, but vaccine mandates are shitty and stupid and anti-worker and anti-poor. The government should not be allowed to demonize unvaccinated people, for spreading coronavirus, when the government itself is doing more to proliferate the spread than any MAGA twat refusing a needle. It's like being mad at a guy who doesn't recycle his Poland Spring bottles, because he's wrecking the environment, and not mentioning Exxon.
Vaccine mandates as part of a broader set of anti-covid measures would be good.
Vaccine mandates as the only anti-covid measure taken is mostly bad, but it does still reduce the number of people getting hospitalized/dying, which is good. Yes it's not even close enough, but it's better than nothing. Pretty on-brand for the democrats in that way, I suppose.
You're right that it reduces the number of people getting hospitalized and dying. But so does banning ice cream sundaes and Dr. Pepper. I don't think we should mandate that people care for their own bodies.
In another scenario, like polio and measles, where the vaccine DOES stop the infection and spread of the diseases, then I would reconsider a mandate. But that is not the case for covid-19 (vaxed people can still catch it and spread it). So it becomes a question of "take it if you want it, and take your chances if you don't".
By mandating, all you're really doing is preventing mostly poor, disproportionately minority people from earning a living, attending events, and taking their kids to restaurants.
The US is already killing millions of people, by doing only one of the 7 or 8 things that need to be done to stop a virus (vaccines). And worse, Biden has taken the very few, bare minimum, shitty meager protections for poor people that Trump did during quarantine (rent moratorium, PUA weekly stipends) and swept them into the garbage can.
I get the impression it's not a popular opinion here, I think, but vaccine mandates, absent all that other stuff, are a waste of time and will disproportionately hurt poor people and minorities. They are not leftist. They are (a) an attempt by a corrupt, shitty administration to "make up for" not doing anything humane with regards to coronavirus; and (b) an action plan to keep open the businesses that bribe both parties in the US government and tell them what to do, so that they don't hemorrhage more money like in 2020.
I hate to see hordes of comrades supporting mandates. I am vaccinated and pro-vaccine, but vaccine mandates are shitty and stupid and anti-worker and anti-poor. The government should not be allowed to demonize unvaccinated people, for spreading coronavirus, when the government itself is doing more to proliferate the spread than any MAGA twat refusing a needle. It's like being mad at a guy who doesn't recycle his Poland Spring bottles, because he's wrecking the environment, and not mentioning Exxon.
Vaccine mandates as part of a broader set of anti-covid measures would be good.
Vaccine mandates as the only anti-covid measure taken is mostly bad, but it does still reduce the number of people getting hospitalized/dying, which is good. Yes it's not even close enough, but it's better than nothing. Pretty on-brand for the democrats in that way, I suppose.
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You're right that it reduces the number of people getting hospitalized and dying. But so does banning ice cream sundaes and Dr. Pepper. I don't think we should mandate that people care for their own bodies.
In another scenario, like polio and measles, where the vaccine DOES stop the infection and spread of the diseases, then I would reconsider a mandate. But that is not the case for covid-19 (vaxed people can still catch it and spread it). So it becomes a question of "take it if you want it, and take your chances if you don't".
By mandating, all you're really doing is preventing mostly poor, disproportionately minority people from earning a living, attending events, and taking their kids to restaurants.