Jesus was the leader of a Millenarianist cult that said some vaguely communist (really more agrarian communalist) things and then had his teachings used to make a giant ass theocratic state. There’s wisdom in his teachings like most historical figures but we really shouldn’t oversell his “commie-ness”
That wasn't really my point. More just assigning a modernist political ideology to a guy who existed in the Roman Empire, in a period before even Feudalism developed, is a bit of a fools errant. If you enjoy the Christian community and want to read a generally progressive message from Jesus' teaches great, he wasn't really a "communist" though.
You can disagree with Marx on that still very much be a Marxist/communist.
Of course organized religion is often a breeding ground for reactionary organization or activity, but you can't suppress it too aggressively (if at all) because it will foment reactionary zeal. Sort of like stamping out drug use, you don't want to just sic authority on them and force them to stop. Once it starts happening on the fringes of society you end up with an even bigger problem. I don't know enough about Russian/Slavic religious culture to have my own opinion on the matter, but I do hear this criticism toward the USSR and their policy toward religion being flawed at best.
I've meet 3 and all of them kinda lowkey admit they think most of it is BS and just enjoy the community.
Not trying to deny your experiences but I can't help but shake a heavy skepticism of the idea that there's a "woke" version of Christianity.
Jesus is a commie :jesus-cleanse:
Jesus was the leader of a Millenarianist cult that said some vaguely communist (really more agrarian communalist) things and then had his teachings used to make a giant ass theocratic state. There’s wisdom in his teachings like most historical figures but we really shouldn’t oversell his “commie-ness”
Right, like Jesus cannot be a communist because he was a religious leader. Under communism, Marx said that religion should be abolished.
That wasn't really my point. More just assigning a modernist political ideology to a guy who existed in the Roman Empire, in a period before even Feudalism developed, is a bit of a fools errant. If you enjoy the Christian community and want to read a generally progressive message from Jesus' teaches great, he wasn't really a "communist" though.
I see, my mistake.
You can disagree with Marx on that still very much be a Marxist/communist.
Of course organized religion is often a breeding ground for reactionary organization or activity, but you can't suppress it too aggressively (if at all) because it will foment reactionary zeal. Sort of like stamping out drug use, you don't want to just sic authority on them and force them to stop. Once it starts happening on the fringes of society you end up with an even bigger problem. I don't know enough about Russian/Slavic religious culture to have my own opinion on the matter, but I do hear this criticism toward the USSR and their policy toward religion being flawed at best.