• feoh@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    This project just warms the cockles of my nerdy old heart :)

    Bringing a crappy CRAPPY old protocol to life with awesome, secure, new 100% FLOSS technology so boatloads of homegrown art and culture can be saved?

    YES PLEASE! :)

  • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Are flash games still a thing? I remember those old sticky fighting flash games on newsgroupe.

    Someone kind enough in webdev to elaborate why someone would care to revive/reimplemente old flash player tech?

    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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      8 months ago

      Adobe Flash Player was deprecated some years ago, so there is no longer any functioning official software that can play Flash games. The modern equivalent are mobile games.

      The reason why reimplementing it is a worthy thing to do is to preserve old software, same reason why console emulators exist.

        • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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          8 months ago

          From a technical point of view you are right. But commercially, I am pretty sure many companies and developers that used to make Flash games now make mobile games. There are many mobile games that are ports of old Flash games.

          • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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            8 months ago

            I see mobile games as the commercial successor of Facebook games. But the spirit of flash games stated in the Web scene for sure.

        • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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          8 months ago

          Wikipedia says at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#End_of_life that the EOL was announced in 2017 and took effect in 2020, much less than 10 years ago.

            • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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              8 months ago

              It was on its way out when smartphones and HTML5 became widely adopted. Smartphones didn't support Flash and HTML5 made sure that the things you used to need Flash for were just implemented in web browsers. Maybe you remember something along those lines.

              • bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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                8 months ago

                What I remembered was abandoning Linux NPAPI Flash plugin in 2012. The PPAPI plugin indeed existed for longer time.

  • Vincent@feddit.nl
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    8 months ago

    Wow, I'm amazed by the number of contributors that a relatively niche product like this has managed to gather - very cool!

  • Rbon@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 months ago

    Ruffle is one of the most important pieces of game preservation currently out there, and it warms my heart to see it constantly improving!

  • leopold@lemmy.kde.social
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    8 months ago

    People keep talking about preservation whenever Ruffle is brought up for some reason. Deprecated or not, the old Flash Player (which is still on Flathub) still works perfectly fine and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Flash games have never been in any immediate preservation danger. Ruffle is cool because it's more secure, it performs better and it works in modern web browsers. It's not really preserving anything.

    • Daxtron2@startrek.website
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      8 months ago

      It's the same concept as old DOS games. Sure you could install a super old version of windows but by giving a more accessible, secure, and free version, the games are essentially preserved from becoming totally abandoned.

      • leopold@lemmy.kde.social
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        8 months ago

        Falkon. It's the only web browser I can think of that still has PPAPI. Maybe Konqueror and Angelfish also do? Would have to check. Either way, these browsers all kinda suck and obviously any browser you'd want to use has dropped support, as I already conceded. Ruffle works in most modern web browsers, Flash does not.

        I just didn't really consider that necessary for strictly preservation purposes. All you need is an archive of SWF files you can download like flashpoint and software that can launch them. Flash Player and Ruffle are both perfectly suitable for this.