Well, not the same level (conservatives are clearly worse) but the line is increasingly becoming blurred in this day and age. Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but they are far more likely to shit on communism (while calling themselves lefist) and making excuses for the United States

I know "leftist infighting" has been a thing since forever, but it really seems like they're closer to reformed capitalism than anything resembling socialism...

  • nohaybanda [he/him]
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    Lots of frankly terrible replies in this thread. Our project is not a secret club where you get to hang out with your cool friends and sneer at the normies from the sidelines.

    We're careening towards ecological collapse. Right this moment billions are suffering under the boot of capitalism, and billions may soon die to disasters, famines, climate wars, fascist crackdowns on the desperate poor, imperialist flailing in the collapsing world order.

    We don't get to write off 99% of people as "too far gone". We agitate, educate, organise. We bully, pontificate, cajole, do whatever it takes. If the communist dream is to have any hope for a future we simply cannot afford to emulate the Western socialists of yesteryear and passively watch from our high towers as the world burns.

    All that said, it's completely understandable to get frustrated with libs and this site is here for us to vent and feel sane for a bit. Things can get a bit doomer at times, but this place gas genuinely been a boon to my mental health.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      We don’t get to write off 99% of people as “too far gone”. We agitate, educate, organise. We bully, pontificate, cajole, do whatever it takes. If the communist dream is to have any hope for a future we simply cannot afford to emulate the Western socialists of yesteryear and passively watch from our high towers as the world burns

      :xi-clap: here here.

      This statement does not exclude shitlibs, succdems, hogs, your gramp-gramp that shouts at his TV, veterans that hated what they did, the annoying protestants that knock on your door to ask you if you know the good news - and the answer you give is that you realized Jesus was the first communist and that salvation for humanity comes through emulating his actions of uplifting the working poor -, your apartment neighbors, your coworkers, etc.

      Communists speak to anyone who listens and listens to anyone who speaks to them in turn. Be tactful of course lol. Don't screm about how you want to make Stalin or Mao look like Jesus with the amount of society reforming you want to do

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        I mean, if anything Jesus was even more radical than Stalin. Basically just walked around pushing the big communism button.

    • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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      fucking :this:

      e: To piggy-back on this point actually, it's natural to feel frustration, and as OP says, disdain, but you have to remember that these people could have been comrades under better circumstances, your disdain is for the system that propagandized them and not themselves as people

    • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This. Getting frustrated with the people you’re agitating and educating is a matter of personal emotional regulation. Of course we can judge these people morally, but for those of us who are capable, a lot that is more about avoiding whatever duty we have to improve our surroundings and communities

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        agitating and educating is a matter of personal emotional regulation.

        I just want to say that we don't want to go too far on this. Some of us have bad days, weeks, months when we just simply can't. And that's fine, mental health is hugely important and we need to be understanding of our comrades who are having difficulties dealing with life itself, let alone all the bullshit that comes along with revolutionary agitation.

        We just can't give up. We take our time, get help, get back up and we keep going.

        • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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          Absolutely. Part of that regulation is recognizing limits, establishing boundaries, self care, etc.

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