It just feels difficult to have meaningful conversations on here sometimes. Like yes I dislike America, but I don't need to act like nothing good has ever come out of it. Maybe China is better than America, but I don't want Xi nuking American cities. I don't think war is suddenly cool and good because Ukraine has some nazis in it. Not everyone I disagree with is some bumbling mass of idiocy, a lot of times we just differ on certain core values.

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    It's not really that deep. The first book I read - Blackshirts and Reds - goes into that idea and I understood it perfectly fine.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Idk where you are at, or all this sincere posting has fried my sarcasm-o-meter, but Micheal Parenti is incredibly obscure literature where I live.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        3 years ago

        You're right about that yeah, I've never heard it referenced outside of online stuff.

        In terms of theory though it's very digestible. That's what I meant by how deep it is in the leftist weeds. No previous Marxist reading required to understand that book.

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Oh yeah, I agree but I can't get people to read the fucking thing. Mostly because I can't get them to read at all, outside of fiction.

          • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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            3 years ago

            Definitely true. Most sorta left brained people I know watch Hasan and that's about as deep as they'll go.

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah, that's my point. Just reading a book puts me deep in theoretical weeds. We are at a point in time where it doesn't really matter if alot of the working class can read, and it's bad opsec to just, hold classes on this stuff if you attract any attention. Scary stuff. Hence the, you know, irony.