NEW: Details on the possible Russia-Ukraine deal

– Russia ceases fire and withdraws – Ukrainian "neutrality" without Nato – Kyiv keeps its army but can't host foreign bases – Russian gets legal status in Ukraine

  • Ziege_Bock [any]
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    3 年前

    I hope he takes this deal. I also hope it doesn't get him JFK'd.

    Really, Finlandization of Ukraine is the obvious compromise between two imperialist nations trying to get you into their sphere of influence.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      3 年前

      I worry most that the far right would view him, a jew as a traitor

      • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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        3 年前

        They certainly will and it will cause civil unrest and factions within the Ukrainian state that are currently smoothed over by the urgent need for defense against Russia. As soon as Russia isn’t a military threat and Zelenskyy proves a “weak traitor” we are going to see some shit go down

        • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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          3 年前

          Putin did more for the far right in 2 weeks than the CIA did in 8.

          • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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            3 年前

            Not true whatsoever. Putin was pushed into this corner by the CIA/US imperialists creating massive far right militant buildups on his border. This is entirely CIA top bottom and center.

            • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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              3 年前

              One of the most powerful men on earth, in control of one of the strongest military forces on earth, had his hand forced. Very plausible.

                • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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                  3 年前

                  Nations don't have throats, only people do. NATO is a force that is good at bullying non-nuclear nations smaller than 20M people or with a GDP less than $250B.

                  There were at least 2 or 3 responsive options for the Russian state; it's rather dishonest to say that there was only one option.

                  Alternatively, since apparently we're talking in condescending and loaded non sequiturs now: Do you know what a bully is?