It's kind of weird seeing so many ppl on this site say things like "if it was my partner I would beat the shit out of someone" and similar stuff (see this thread: https://hexbear.net/post/183672). Not gonna lie it's kinda weird hearing that from nominal leftists. It sounds no different than some machismo person trying to start a fight cuz his honor was disrespected or something. This is what I said in that thread:

I mean I get the sentiment, but it also kinda feels like some kind of toxic machismo holdover. Kind of like “how dare you make fun of MY wife, if you insult her you basically insult ME!” I dunno it sounds kinda possessive, as if someone damaged your property, therefore damaged your pride.

So how do ppl justify this? I'm genuinely curious.

One thing I've seen some people say is that "he was standing up for someone." But that still sounds like some "you've disrespected m'lady sir, shall we duel?" shit. Like I see this stuff all the time from dads who get mad at their daughter's dates ("don't you dare lay a hand on her or I'll kill you") or brothers that are very possessive of girl family members ("if you mistreat my sister I'll kill you!") or even chuds getting triggered about the flag ("if you disrespect the flag I'll kill you!").

I dunno sounds very honor culture-y. Also sounds like retributive justice, which is fine I guess if you believe in that but we've seen the horrors that has wreaked on minority communities in places like the US. I dunno lemme know what you all think.

  • swampfox [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Well if you only start to process information at the point of hand-to-face impact you might be dumb enough to compare those two things.

    slapping can be warranted =/= slapping is always warranted

        • queenjamie [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          it’s a slap - the universal signal to “fucking stop you moron”. The harm done by a slap is 1% physical (if you’re a tiny baby) and 99% public humiliation.

          Your own words, just sayin...

          • swampfox [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            once again, saying a slap can be justified doesn't give you carte blanche to claim that I condone slapping for any given action.

            in the case of ridiculing someone for a disease, I think it is justified, personally. Chris rock wasn't in any actual danger - it was 100% public humiliation and Chris Rock had already humiliated Jada, so eh.

                • queenjamie [none/use name]
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                  2 years ago

                  If I offend someone to the point of wanting to slap me that’s fine.

                  The problem is that where is that line? Some people can get trigger happy real fast

                  • swampfox [none/use name]
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                    2 years ago

                    If someone is throwing out unjustified slaps then they will be held accountable by society's judgment. This in turn will effect people's personal judgment when debating whether to slap or not.

                    The line is drawn by the context and can't be articulated universally with language.

                    • queenjamie [none/use name]
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                      2 years ago

                      The line is drawn by the context and can’t be articulated universally with language.

                      Makes sense, so maybe it might be best not to say a slap is:

                      the universal signal to “fucking stop you moron”. The harm done by a slap is 1% physical (if you’re a tiny baby) and 99% public humiliation.

                      But sure I see what you're saying.

                      • swampfox [none/use name]
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                        2 years ago

                        universal signal =/= universally justified

                        a slap always means the person has had enough and is expressing their rage at a person so that the person they perceive as a malevolent moron stops.

                        that doesn't mean that the slapper used good judgment. Example: a drunk person who imagined being insulted.

          • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            it’s a slap - the universal signal to “fucking stop you moron”. The harm done by a slap is 1% physical (if you’re a tiny baby) and 99% public humiliation.

            Your own words, just sayin…

            :very-intelligent: I gotcha with the ol' switchrooooooo