People forget that the origin of the tank was to support infantry pushes on line fortifications. Unless groundworks go out of style (which if Ukraine is any indication it is unlikely) tanks will remain relevant.
That being said, the usage of tanks as urban or rural warfare viechles has always been suspect, and there have generally been better option available to most militaries, be they technicals or APCs.
Half the Ukrainian drone kills I've seen have been on fortified positions, similar to the carnage that Azerbaijan managed to inflict on Armenia with theirs. If any model is being validated in Ukraine it's small semi-autonomous infantry units with lots of handheld anti-vehicle options. Armies need to become insurgencies that blend into the environment, and even then it's only a matter of time until drones with thermal cameras start patrolling the skies above warzones en masse.
That's a great point. But stuff has to be stored and shipped places, and people have to sleep. Groundworks have been all over the place in Ukraine, but normally as the 'last-ditch' defensive line when those small semi-autonomous infantry units eventually get smoked. I'm not saying they don't deliver more per pound, but transforming your entire army to that model is probably not viable if you want to hold ground. We'll see what the take aways are. My real curiosity is on the artillery tactics, though not much seems to have changed there.
The drone-directed artillery is a real step up from anything I've seen in previous wars. Along with consumer-grade drones dropping AT/HE grenades, the observation drones are precisely directing mortars and howitzers in cities. Even the best AA defenses will have to contend with miniaturisation there and I think the CIA made insect-scale ones. When those cheap rounds can be as precise as cruise missiles, big nope.
Oh yeah, the artillery skirmishing is like, civil war wheeling but incredibly rapid. The tactics haven't changed, but the pace at which it is taking place is just so much faster. God, man I am afraid of when that stuff truly reaches scifi hieghts.
People forget that the origin of the tank was to support infantry pushes on line fortifications. Unless groundworks go out of style (which if Ukraine is any indication it is unlikely) tanks will remain relevant.
That being said, the usage of tanks as urban or rural warfare viechles has always been suspect, and there have generally been better option available to most militaries, be they technicals or APCs.
Half the Ukrainian drone kills I've seen have been on fortified positions, similar to the carnage that Azerbaijan managed to inflict on Armenia with theirs. If any model is being validated in Ukraine it's small semi-autonomous infantry units with lots of handheld anti-vehicle options. Armies need to become insurgencies that blend into the environment, and even then it's only a matter of time until drones with thermal cameras start patrolling the skies above warzones en masse.
That's a great point. But stuff has to be stored and shipped places, and people have to sleep. Groundworks have been all over the place in Ukraine, but normally as the 'last-ditch' defensive line when those small semi-autonomous infantry units eventually get smoked. I'm not saying they don't deliver more per pound, but transforming your entire army to that model is probably not viable if you want to hold ground. We'll see what the take aways are. My real curiosity is on the artillery tactics, though not much seems to have changed there.
The drone-directed artillery is a real step up from anything I've seen in previous wars. Along with consumer-grade drones dropping AT/HE grenades, the observation drones are precisely directing mortars and howitzers in cities. Even the best AA defenses will have to contend with miniaturisation there and I think the CIA made insect-scale ones. When those cheap rounds can be as precise as cruise missiles, big nope.
Oh yeah, the artillery skirmishing is like, civil war wheeling but incredibly rapid. The tactics haven't changed, but the pace at which it is taking place is just so much faster. God, man I am afraid of when that stuff truly reaches scifi hieghts.
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