• Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    my futureposting sci-fi prediction: i think tanks will get shorter, more compact, with autonomous anti-infantry/anti-drone weapons and possibly replacing the main guns with multi-purpose guided missiles (basically like a tiny modern AEGIS ship). possibly with a swarm of both aerial and ground based drones that support and are controlled by a single future "tank". i could also see the crew reduced to maybe 2 or even less, replacing some of the space with reactive armor or other stuff that improves survivability.
    treads may disappear soon, not replaced by legs as fucking cool as that would be but maybe by skirted inflatable omni-directional wheels that give increased speed and multi-directional manuvering...basically the closest thing to a "hover tank" we may ever see. the tank becomes more of an urban warfare system less of a cold war era open field engagement platform.

    • happybadger [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The land carrier is a platform I'm worried about. We already have swarming drones that interface with planes. If you modify an APC-size vehicle to house and maintain a drone network, that's an entire city locked down. Drones to triangulate sound and track gunshots, to observe with night and thermal vision, to bomb from the sky and suicide bomb any window/door/roof/vehicle when they detect firing or EM radiation. That's going to be a real Agincourt moment for urban warfare.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          RAND corporation writing think pieces on the war crime gap, and how we have to fund our own war crime apparatus to at least twice that of Russia and China

      • Owl [he/him]M
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        2 years ago

        I think infantry-carried anti-drone weaponry will catch up and outperform drones. Rockets are just fundamentally cheaper than drones can be.

        • happybadger [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          For me it all hinges on how good consumer-grade drones become. If I can cheaply make an octocopter that accomplishes an insurgent goal, nothing save bullets or a less effective net gun will be cheaper. The anti-drone tech can be near-perfect but then it's a similar issue as ICBM interception. Only one needs to get through to achieve a disproportionately expensive goal. If the net gun has six barrels I send seven $300 AliExpress/3D printed drones and destroy the $4.5m T-90 tank. If the infantry squad can expect to manually shoot X drones down, I send Y and maybe one of them detonates a hand grenade overhead. Those infantry go somewhere drones can watch to sleep, and when they do whatever expensive defense can be overwhelmed cheaply enough to get one or two through and bomb a barracks. If they can shoot accurately to 1000m vertically, I just need to 3D print fins into whatever I drop and do so from higher.

          It's an arms race but it's one built around a mechanic rockets can't cheaply match- precision. Those Azov mortar videos out of Mariupol are terrifying, with them guiding strikes with pinpoint accuracy in congested streets onto vehicles and infantry. If a drone can cheaply strike itself or guide a strike from another cheap weapon like an unguided rocket/mortar, fancy guided rockets won't be able to match the cost-effectiveness and the logistical footprint to supply them will be larger/more vulnerable. Anything that launches a rocket short of a nuclear vessel or a silo is so fuel inefficient that you need those big Russian convoys in the drone/ATGM videos just to keep them moving.

          edit: Minus electronic warfare solutions like jamming, but a software problem seems easier and cheaper to overcome than a hardware one. If they can find a way around that then it's only manual interception stopping them.

          • Owl [he/him]M
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            2 years ago

            It's somewhat plausible that anti-drone "rockets" end up physically being some sort of rotary craft, like a suicide drone that's incapable of turning around. But a thing that only goes in one direction, one time, is still going to be cheaper and simpler than something that has to be able to slow itself down and reverse course. That's why I'm fairly confident that anti-drone weaponry ends up cheaper than drones in the long run, even if it's fairly high-tech stuff. It's also why I think this is different from ICBM interception (which I've posted a few times about being mostly impossible), since in this case you're intercepting something slower with something faster (and all the speeds are less than ICBMs).

            Minus electronic warfare solutions like jamming, but a software problem seems easier and cheaper to overcome than a hardware one

            There's only so much you can do with software. If the parts of the EM spectrum you have antennae for are full of enough noise, there's nothing for software to do. But I don't actually know how much noise it's plausible to put out in a war setting.