Heavy story, comrade. Probably played out all over the country.
Almost all attributable to the MSM’s laser focus in stoking hyper-partisanship more than in any other previous era. Add in the toxicity of social media and it’s a giant identity politics fuckfest, drawing in everyone including the most apolitical people to take sides. So glad I completely ignored the dopey electoral coverage once Bernie was cheated for a second time.
Funny thing is if you stripped away all the MSM parameters of talking about policies in black and white party affiliations and instead took it by issues that effect all of us in our daily lives you can make inroads. For instance, ask if he things public utilities should be owned by private companies instead of by the public, since everyone relies on electric, water, the internet, etc. Does he he know corporate CEO’a sometimes make $10mil a year? What about asking where he’s like his tax money to go, more military drones and bombers, or towards free healthcare? There’s so many way of taking about issues outside of the Duopoly bullshit.
When I try to convince him or plant seeds all I do is talk about policy, I don't talk about Democrats or Republican (unless he makes some outlandish comments) -- but those talking points just don't stick. He will agree with them, then the next day he will go straight back to his own talking points. His conviction behind his political beliefs are not cemented in facts or reality, and I'm fairly certain he is aware of that. He is just so emotionally charged by Trump and his rhetoric that he will not be swayed from it. I will tell him how Trump contradicts himself on certain issues or try to show him videos (he will not read articles) where Trump does not agree with his beliefs but he will just push it aside or not acknowledge it. His indoctrination to the Trump Cult is cathartic in the sense that it gives him an identity, a venue to vent and a way to rationalize life's woes -- it is like a religion to him at this point. I keep trying every time I meet him to at the very least plant seeds and not argue, but it really seems to get nowhere. As I stated in my original post, I don't think I will ever be able to convince him unless there is a significant shift in the political conscious in the US -- or maybe if Trump does something to accidently snap the trance he has put his followers in.
Unfortunately there are chuds who are in it just to hate-fuck the others. They don't care about facts or who's doing the most harm. They want to see the opposition hurt so they can feel justified and/or vindicated.
And truth be told, it's not even about winning; it's literally about inflicting pain and as much as possible. There is no end game. Some may even admit Trump is a moron. They love him because he lands punches, even if they're sometimes few and far between. And when Trump totally strikes out (which happens all the fucking time), libs shit themselves just thinking about the orange menace - which is yet another victory.
I know multiple people in the Trump camp. Many of them aren't interested in their side winning as much as they're keyed into opposition losing. Yes, it does involve a lot of circular thinking but it also sets the bar really fucking low to put yourself in a position of being a "winner."
Heavy story, comrade. Probably played out all over the country.
Almost all attributable to the MSM’s laser focus in stoking hyper-partisanship more than in any other previous era. Add in the toxicity of social media and it’s a giant identity politics fuckfest, drawing in everyone including the most apolitical people to take sides. So glad I completely ignored the dopey electoral coverage once Bernie was cheated for a second time.
Funny thing is if you stripped away all the MSM parameters of talking about policies in black and white party affiliations and instead took it by issues that effect all of us in our daily lives you can make inroads. For instance, ask if he things public utilities should be owned by private companies instead of by the public, since everyone relies on electric, water, the internet, etc. Does he he know corporate CEO’a sometimes make $10mil a year? What about asking where he’s like his tax money to go, more military drones and bombers, or towards free healthcare? There’s so many way of taking about issues outside of the Duopoly bullshit.
When I try to convince him or plant seeds all I do is talk about policy, I don't talk about Democrats or Republican (unless he makes some outlandish comments) -- but those talking points just don't stick. He will agree with them, then the next day he will go straight back to his own talking points. His conviction behind his political beliefs are not cemented in facts or reality, and I'm fairly certain he is aware of that. He is just so emotionally charged by Trump and his rhetoric that he will not be swayed from it. I will tell him how Trump contradicts himself on certain issues or try to show him videos (he will not read articles) where Trump does not agree with his beliefs but he will just push it aside or not acknowledge it. His indoctrination to the Trump Cult is cathartic in the sense that it gives him an identity, a venue to vent and a way to rationalize life's woes -- it is like a religion to him at this point. I keep trying every time I meet him to at the very least plant seeds and not argue, but it really seems to get nowhere. As I stated in my original post, I don't think I will ever be able to convince him unless there is a significant shift in the political conscious in the US -- or maybe if Trump does something to accidently snap the trance he has put his followers in.
Unfortunately there are chuds who are in it just to hate-fuck the others. They don't care about facts or who's doing the most harm. They want to see the opposition hurt so they can feel justified and/or vindicated.
And truth be told, it's not even about winning; it's literally about inflicting pain and as much as possible. There is no end game. Some may even admit Trump is a moron. They love him because he lands punches, even if they're sometimes few and far between. And when Trump totally strikes out (which happens all the fucking time), libs shit themselves just thinking about the orange menace - which is yet another victory.
I know multiple people in the Trump camp. Many of them aren't interested in their side winning as much as they're keyed into opposition losing. Yes, it does involve a lot of circular thinking but it also sets the bar really fucking low to put yourself in a position of being a "winner."