Sincerely, :fedposting:
Link because I'm not a lib: https://twitter.com/MarimoZach/status/1523880339428438016
The rest of the thread is even worse, read at your own risk lol

  • Trouble [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    We were all taught in school that protest is just performance art and that performing art protests work. This is the result.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      as Tommy Boy taught us, all you need is to broadcast a recording of someone admitting their venal crimes and the cops show up immediately and take them away

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Everyone's gonna dunk on this for the bad opsec but even beside that point it reveals that these libs can only think in a national electoralist framework. You have to show everyone the protest or how will guys in Wichita see it and change their mind? Even the lib concept of a protest where it's just really convincing performance art can't imagine a local polity

  • XKEYSCORE [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    this person has never heard of a geofence warrant and it shows

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Have these people ever heard of a CAMERA? You want to take pictures? Bring a camera. Post that shit later once you're safe and have time to remove faces and tattoos from the footage. No one wants to see your dark ass grainy cellphone video with the microphone clipping through the whole video anyway.

    The popularity (and importance) of low budget media outlets like Unicorn Riot has made everyone want to be a copy cat. But a thousand people pointing cameras at 10 people dressed in bloc doing crimes does not make for an effective protest. If you want to be press, be press. If you want to be a legal observer, be a legal observer. If you want to actually do the thing, fuck off with all that shit.

  • Wheaties [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Everyday I feel more validated in the belief that real organizing happens offline and should stay offline. The internet is not your friend. At best, it's a tool to be used with the utmost caution.

  • Interloper [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    please show your whole ass at protests. take pictures. add a caption. facebook it. tell everyone your bad takes. why you have them. how you feel about dumb shit.

    there is no point to protests if you don't show your whole ass and nobody knows it, if normal everyday people don't document it.

    • solidarity_forever [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I already show my whole ass on facebook. Either I've been shadowbanned, the algorithm hates me, or my friends are completely indifferent.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If you're at a protest that can be improved by live streaming it, you're at an ineffective protest

    • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don't necessarily agree with that, I think it depends on what your goals are. One example of what I think is a protest where livestreams/general publicity can be good are the recent abortion protests organized by the PSL. With so many :LIB:s out in force there's not much chance of this becoming something like the BLM protests IMO, but if a vanguard party is seen leading the protests that's still more eyes and more potential members.

      That being said, any sort of livestreaming would need to be subject to party discipline and there's a time and a place for peaceful protests to gain publicity vs actual direct action protests depending on the general mood of the public.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I think there's a contradiction.

        The vanguard party, and orgs in general, are benefitted greatly by publicity which is today achieved by social media. On the other hand the individual protester is endangered by having the tools to access social media on their person at a protest.

        This problem will need a solution.

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Jesus, the guy is PSL. Is every nominally socialist org in the US captured by liberals?

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Apparently according to the comments it's just your standard PSL member protest

      As a non American I thought they were good :-(

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        They’re good in the sense that we’re not exactly spoiled for choice for orgs here and they are explicitly advocating for socialism

        Locally the chapter here does some good work with community outreach, cleaning up to keep the city from flooding and stuff like that.

        That said, they seem to be ran by some relatively petty people and they’ve splintered once or twice but that’s pr for the course for leftist orgs I guess. I’ve heard some horror stories about their mgmt here and there.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I mean they sound better than most orgs out there, maybe it's just some rouge members on twitter.

          No wonder the PSL says that they monitor their members social media when you have people like this saying you must take your phone to the protest and representing them.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I mean I wouldn't from a strong opinion of them from one random member on the :brd: site, it's good that you're part of an org and organising.

  • solidarity_forever [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    No he's right, we want the dumbfucks to bring cellphones. Watch them grow more radical and wise when they are arrested weeks later. Let the feds waste their time on the small fry as you do your black block activities untracked.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That is 1000% fed posting wow.

    If you want to document just get a normal camera?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I am currently banned from Twitter or I'd say a few not very nice things to them.

    • OutrageousHairdo [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      :melon-musk: tempbanned me for being a meanie to the SC justices the other day.
      Also why isn't :melon-musk: an actual muskmelon. Like muskmelon is an actual real life fruit, the emote should be that.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        They are physically forcing me to delete the tweet myself before allowing me back on. I am repeatedly appealing it. This is the tweet:

        @scottjshapiro Women are going to die. Willingness to use force to prevent that is not deranged. Trying to stop people from doing whatever they possibly can to save others is deranged.

        I don't even fucking say what force is and they're having an aneurysm over it.