Can you expand upon this idea? I understand the feeling that Bernie would ultimately have been sort of ineffectual in the grand scheme of things, but I highly doubt he'd be a looming threat to marginalized people the way Trump was.
I think Bernie could've been effectual, even if moderately. I think we just have no idea what it looks like for someone like that to get elected president so it's hard to picture.
If he had the guts he could just abuse the fuck out of executive orders, as could anyone. Trump demonstrated that you can, the only reason the dems don't is that they're fucking losers, they use "norms" as an excuse not to use the powers but won't actually remove those powers as it enables the baddies that they're secretly in collusion with to do whatever the fuck they want when they've got power.
I think a Sanders presidency would ultimately lay bare the truth about how powerless the president actually is and just how much the DNC and RNC agree on.
yea, but I'm not sure how many people would notice. like Congress just decided to ignore Trump after J6 and the military command refused to take his orders - yet how many people are talking about that coup? how many people are even aware that it happened?
I don't think Bernie would have been ineffectual as president in 2016 or 2020, he just would be controversial. Let's start with the big issue, Israel. He would firmly be for a two state solution, he wouldn't support an Israeli apartheid but he definitely wouldn't have a stance that would please the left or right. You know how Trump visited North Korea to inflate his own ego? I would suspect Bernie would go to Tel Aviv, meet with Palestinian leaders, meet with Israeli leaders, and broker something resembling peace. I don't think Israel and Palestine would have bombed each other with Bernie as president but I doubt he would have gone to North Korea like Trump did.
As for other things he would do differently than Trump or Biden, he wouldn't of assassinated that Iranian general, he would of pissed off Saudi Arabia when they killed that journalist on US soil, he would have stayed in the Paris climate accords (not that it mattered), not him exactly but the media wouldn't have a figure like Trump to report on 24/7, Assange would probably be free right now since the Obama administration was afraid to touch him and the only reason why he got arrested was that he pissed off Trump and I doubt Bernie would have beef with him. Covid is just a wild card, I doubt he would handle it well, it blindsided the world, I think his pro-lockdown stance would be tested and that would be the reason why he would lose the election, one consequence of that is the Republicans would most definitely be open to vaccines because no qanon bullshit and they would blame China a lot more than they do now. If anything the anti vaccine people would be more lib and pro lockdown in the bernie timeliness. If bernie was elected in 2020 he would do better than Biden hands down, so would Trump. Afghanistan was unavoidable but he maybe could avoid Ukraine.
Can you expand upon this idea? I understand the feeling that Bernie would ultimately have been sort of ineffectual in the grand scheme of things, but I highly doubt he'd be a looming threat to marginalized people the way Trump was.
I think Bernie could've been effectual, even if moderately. I think we just have no idea what it looks like for someone like that to get elected president so it's hard to picture.
If he had the guts he could just abuse the fuck out of executive orders, as could anyone. Trump demonstrated that you can, the only reason the dems don't is that they're fucking losers, they use "norms" as an excuse not to use the powers but won't actually remove those powers as it enables the baddies that they're secretly in collusion with to do whatever the fuck they want when they've got power.
I think a Sanders presidency would ultimately lay bare the truth about how powerless the president actually is and just how much the DNC and RNC agree on.
yea, but I'm not sure how many people would notice. like Congress just decided to ignore Trump after J6 and the military command refused to take his orders - yet how many people are talking about that coup? how many people are even aware that it happened?
Yeah, it would have lifted a huge vail.
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I don't think Bernie would have been ineffectual as president in 2016 or 2020, he just would be controversial. Let's start with the big issue, Israel. He would firmly be for a two state solution, he wouldn't support an Israeli apartheid but he definitely wouldn't have a stance that would please the left or right. You know how Trump visited North Korea to inflate his own ego? I would suspect Bernie would go to Tel Aviv, meet with Palestinian leaders, meet with Israeli leaders, and broker something resembling peace. I don't think Israel and Palestine would have bombed each other with Bernie as president but I doubt he would have gone to North Korea like Trump did.
As for other things he would do differently than Trump or Biden, he wouldn't of assassinated that Iranian general, he would of pissed off Saudi Arabia when they killed that journalist on US soil, he would have stayed in the Paris climate accords (not that it mattered), not him exactly but the media wouldn't have a figure like Trump to report on 24/7, Assange would probably be free right now since the Obama administration was afraid to touch him and the only reason why he got arrested was that he pissed off Trump and I doubt Bernie would have beef with him. Covid is just a wild card, I doubt he would handle it well, it blindsided the world, I think his pro-lockdown stance would be tested and that would be the reason why he would lose the election, one consequence of that is the Republicans would most definitely be open to vaccines because no qanon bullshit and they would blame China a lot more than they do now. If anything the anti vaccine people would be more lib and pro lockdown in the bernie timeliness. If bernie was elected in 2020 he would do better than Biden hands down, so would Trump. Afghanistan was unavoidable but he maybe could avoid Ukraine.
That's enough bullshitting for today.
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