• CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I don't think your average person realizes how manufactured the red scare was, they just think of it as the public going a lil bit overboard hence the name "scare".

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Its taught as McCarthy just being a wacky individual who wanted more power and could talk well, rather than being a well organized, tactical media and education campaign, coordinated by nearly all levels of government

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        He's also portrayed as being unintentionally right, even if he was a crank and just making things up. I learned in school that there actually were a bunch of communists in the government and that was definitely a bad thing, even if the reasons are vague and unspecified.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I think this was more cointelpro rather than HUAC, but those are similar in a sense. The reason that French New Wave star Jean Seberg was targeted by Edgar Hoover initially was that she donated like $500 to civil rights orgs. They discovered later she also donated to the black panthers, but like who cares, you don't have to be like a soviet agent to support them, and you only found that out after stalking a private citizen for donating to mainstream civil rights places. You also know that the reason she was on their radar at all is that they probably considered French New Wave to be secretly soviet or some shit.

          • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            I don't think the details matter, the point is that we need a never ending red scarce to protect our American way of false scarcity and poverty.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Hoover was such a fucking monster. Everyone goes on about the Stasi like we didn't have our own corrupt and totally unaccountable networks of spies and assassins at home.

        • Dangitbobby [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The man who negotiated the Bretton Woods Agreement, Harry Dexter White, was a spy for the USSR.

          The Manhattan Project was also riddled with spies.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Americans: the red scare was just a few silly over-the-top reactions to the Soviets

      Also Americans: Communism killed 100 billion people which is why we can't have communism and also why other countries like Vietnam can't have communism and why the US was justified in killing millions just to try and stop communism. And no, I will not look into where that number came from or consider that it also was part of the propaganda. I'm definitely correct about this despite the fact I don't actually know shit about what I'm talking about.

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      people forget the western allies propping up the third reich early on, using them as a proxy against the USSR.

      people forget the corporate coup attempt against FDR

      people forget the palmer raids from 1919

      they also forget the rage at the paris commune among the american bourgeoisie back in 1871. American anti communism is much, MUCH older than McCarthy.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The Man from Earth is a science fiction story where a group of people get together for a dinner party and one of them claims to have been alive for all of human history, thousands and thousands of years. At first the other guests don't believe him but as he describes various historical events as though he was there they start to wonder.