• ComradeBobRojavakian [he/him]
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        He also boosted that dumb ass MMT debt is all in your imagination and inflation, what inflation shit that has poisoned the left.

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            Graeber wrote an entire book on "Debt", where he claims that the basis of all money, regardless of whether it is fiat or not.

        • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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          What's the low down on MMT, and why does it suck from a leftist perspective? Interested to learn more about this.

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            It might be easiest to explain MMT by contrasting how the budget of the United States differs from a household budget:

            1. If your household wants more dollars, you have to do work, invest, get a loan, etc. If the United States wants more dollars, it can (and does -- this is actually how significant government spending happens) literally just print them.
            2. Because you might not be able to obtain enough dollars to cover your debts, you can default on a loan or not have enough money to pay your bills. Because the United States can just print more dollars as needed, it can never default on its loans and will always be able to pay its bills (at least as long as both of those can be paid in U.S. dollars).
            3. At some point you want to pay down your debts to zero. The United States doesn't want to do this, because U.S. debt creates the Treasury bill market, and paying the debt down to zero would eliminate that market.

            There are limits to this -- if the United States prints too much money, and/or doesn't recover enough in taxes, inflation will rise and create all sorts of economic problems -- but we're currently doing historic deficit spending and have consistently low inflation, so we're likely not close to those limits.

            As for why this is bad from a leftist perspective: it's not.

          • ComradeBobRojavakian [he/him]
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            https://cosmonaut.blog/2019/06/01/the-grey-tree-of-post-keynesianism-and-monetarism-the-classical-account-inflation-and-unemployment/

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              I cannot do justice to this vast new philosophy, theory, and technology of statecraft and economic policy, but the main MMTers are essentially Post-Keynesians...

              So I ask: When will MMT policy not trigger inflation or stagflation? Where do they draw the line? What are the sustainable limits of MMT?

              I am sure MMTers have an answer to such questions, but [I haven't bothered to read them.]

              These lines, combined with the grand total of zero citations in the MMT section of that article, suggest that the author is not speaking from any real knowledge of MMT.

              • ComradeBobRojavakian [he/him]
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                All adherents to any religion think that their critics "don't have any real knowledge of MMT", which is, ironically, what makes MMT the Austrianism of the left.

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                  All adherents to any religion

                  lol

                  think that their critics “don’t have any real knowledge of MMT”

                  I think he doesn't know shit about MMT because he starts off by saying "I don't know shit about MMT." How fucking gullible do you have to be to take that guy as an authority on the subject?

              • ComradeBobRojavakian [he/him]
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                I think it is a "for Dummies" version of the much more expansive and detailed work of Prof. Anwar Shaikh, who has a video on Money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPMoESXe4x8&index=27&list=PLB1uqxcCESK6B1juh_wnKoxftZCcqA1go

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        Meh

        The true test of an internationalist is whether they can support a third world country whilst Imperialism gears up for slaughter and not be confused by shitlib meaningless non phrases like "dIcTaToR" etc.

        As if all capitalist states are not Dictatorships of the Bourgeoisie

        Graeber misled god knows how many thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) into carrying water for Imperialism as the US funded jihadis, supported ISIS and bombed Syria into pieces

        Even as Rojava capitulated to imperialism he still championed Rojava as if it was a cause worth celebrating

        Even as Trump said they should "take the oil from Syria" on live TV

        Even as the Kurds burned down wheat fields to starve Syria cities

        Even as the Kurds ethnically cleansed Arabs and Assyrians

        Ironically having a shit take on foreign policy means that Graeber strengthened capitalist-imperialism in the heartlands (west europe/USA and Japan) so it's literally the most important thing.

        So we can weigh on the scale "created the phrase 99% and wrote a good book about debt" vs "misled perhaps 100,000s of people on the reality of Syria and Imperialisms role"

        Rest in piss I say