NEW - Journalists will face arrest, charges if caught reporting while on Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District property https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Uvalde-school-shooting-17212194.php
be honest like there's not going to be anything lost by journalists not being able to walk around the school, anything that comes out about this will be through talking to people, not doing the sherlock bullet trajectory csi bit.
the news reporting you lads have around mass killings is pretty disgusting. if this stops picture and videos of the crime scene from coming out it's a good thing
It's public property, you walk into the front door and speak to the front office, this is how public property works. Students are not in classes, they are cancelled.
right or you could like email them or ring them on the telephone or organise a time to talk to them in person. this is not in any way going to stop journalists from speaking to who they want to speak to.
i doubt the adults who were involved are just hanging out at the school either dog
You could do all that stuff or you could walk into the public property and see if someone can speak to you, because that's the way the law works in America. This arrest order is almost certainly unconstitutional, and there's no way this order has anything to do with sparing any victims harassment. This is to protect the police from whatever crimes or misdeeds they committed, that's it.
ok! but i don't care about the constitution, i don't think journalists physically not being on the site will make a difference to their ability to make an investigation into this shooting and i don't think this is a big deal.
like i just can't see the mechanism for how this is going to protect the police from anything
The bigger picture is that pigs are illegally arresting journalists for attempting to report on them. Whether or not that is going to hinder the investigative process is secondary - it's a flex of power and it's sending a clear message.
Better than most of the stuff our media shows. At least it helps people empathize more. We often don't get to see anything from these situations, they're extremely sanitized. Just like we don't usually see people getting shot and bombed in US wars. We barely got a glimpse inside the rooms in the COVID wards where a million Americans just died. I feel like almost everything from our national propaganda outlets is so disconnected from the world to the point that most Americans can't even point to the places talked about in media on a map. Lots of people in this country couldn't point to Ukraine on a map. Or any country the US bombs. It's obviously not voyeurism to depict US war crimes. I don't think it's that much of a different situation to show inside a classroom where people died. If anything (and even NPR had someone on to say this), we should actually see pictures of crime scene with the dead bodies still there. Hearing talking heads blabber about things is far too abstract and it's easier to control narratives that way.
What makes it "ghoulish" other than some weird lib civility "reverence" yadda ydda yadda stuff. We're generally extremely uninformed and out of touch as Americans because things are censored, not because they show too much. And in the other direction, it's easier to play things up and lie about them when they're not actually shown. Like rhetoric about homeless people or violent crime or whatever. All we see of homeless people on TV is their tents. They won't even interview homeless people and play their voices on TV.
I think the unedited body cams from all the cops should be released so that we can know once and for all what happened. I don't want to see the shooting any more than you do but we need to know the truth
I agree, they should be released to journalists and properly independent bodies to look into and make a real accounting of, they shouldn't be shown on the news unless those investigations find the police are lying.
be honest like there's not going to be anything lost by journalists not being able to walk around the school, anything that comes out about this will be through talking to people, not doing the sherlock bullet trajectory csi bit.
the news reporting you lads have around mass killings is pretty disgusting. if this stops picture and videos of the crime scene from coming out it's a good thing
like people who work at the schools that might be asked for an interview by being on school grounds, maybe?
if only there were another way of getting into contact with those people than literally just standing in the school. unfortunately this is impossible
It's public property, you walk into the front door and speak to the front office, this is how public property works. Students are not in classes, they are cancelled.
right or you could like email them or ring them on the telephone or organise a time to talk to them in person. this is not in any way going to stop journalists from speaking to who they want to speak to.
i doubt the adults who were involved are just hanging out at the school either dog
You could do all that stuff or you could walk into the public property and see if someone can speak to you, because that's the way the law works in America. This arrest order is almost certainly unconstitutional, and there's no way this order has anything to do with sparing any victims harassment. This is to protect the police from whatever crimes or misdeeds they committed, that's it.
ok! but i don't care about the constitution, i don't think journalists physically not being on the site will make a difference to their ability to make an investigation into this shooting and i don't think this is a big deal.
like i just can't see the mechanism for how this is going to protect the police from anything
ringo peace and love ✌
The bigger picture is that pigs are illegally arresting journalists for attempting to report on them. Whether or not that is going to hinder the investigative process is secondary - it's a flex of power and it's sending a clear message.
The constitution is dumb but it does govern the things cops are allowed to do, and this is them saying they're going to break the law.
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what possible good can come from photos or video of the crime scene being shown in the press? it's voyeurism.
Better than most of the stuff our media shows. At least it helps people empathize more. We often don't get to see anything from these situations, they're extremely sanitized. Just like we don't usually see people getting shot and bombed in US wars. We barely got a glimpse inside the rooms in the COVID wards where a million Americans just died. I feel like almost everything from our national propaganda outlets is so disconnected from the world to the point that most Americans can't even point to the places talked about in media on a map. Lots of people in this country couldn't point to Ukraine on a map. Or any country the US bombs. It's obviously not voyeurism to depict US war crimes. I don't think it's that much of a different situation to show inside a classroom where people died. If anything (and even NPR had someone on to say this), we should actually see pictures of crime scene with the dead bodies still there. Hearing talking heads blabber about things is far too abstract and it's easier to control narratives that way.
who the fuck is not empathising in this situation? it's absolutely ghoulish to show the physical aftermath of the mass murder of children on the news.
What makes it "ghoulish" other than some weird lib civility "reverence" yadda ydda yadda stuff. We're generally extremely uninformed and out of touch as Americans because things are censored, not because they show too much. And in the other direction, it's easier to play things up and lie about them when they're not actually shown. Like rhetoric about homeless people or violent crime or whatever. All we see of homeless people on TV is their tents. They won't even interview homeless people and play their voices on TV.
"if you don't want to see the blood splatter of children on the walls you're a lib" Is a take I've never seen before
it gains nothing and is disgusting and disrespectful to make media content of something like that
lies are going to be told either way and your seeing the crime scene in the news will have no bearing on how they're received
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I think the unedited body cams from all the cops should be released so that we can know once and for all what happened. I don't want to see the shooting any more than you do but we need to know the truth
I agree, they should be released to journalists and properly independent bodies to look into and make a real accounting of, they shouldn't be shown on the news unless those investigations find the police are lying.
I don't trust American journalists to truthfully audit cops.
they will be, as soon as they're done deepfaking it