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  • ClathrateG [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    you're probably a daily smoker like me so don't get much beyond a mood lift, but for first time and intolerant users they can absolute experience ' non-ordinary states of consciousness (known as psychedelic experiences or "trips").[2][3][4] This causes specific psychological, visual, and auditory changes, and often a substantially altered state of consciousness.' aka physchdelic effects

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      they can absolute experience ’ non-ordinary states of consciousness (known as psychedelic experiences or “trips”)

      one could argue that the same goes for sober people who have a spontaneous mystical experience, or meditate, or practice lucid dreaming. i mean, sure, i've had highs that were fairly trippy, that happens, there's moments like that, but if i take 200 ug of LSD i can guarantee that i'll be tripping balls for hours and i can't guarantee that with any amount of weed, i can only guarantee that i'll fall asleep part certain dosages.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          No, I mean these definitions are nebulous at best and that is the pretense on which it is classified as a schedule one substance. It's bullshit drug war propaganda to call weed psychedelic.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Of course. Also the main reason I responded to this post was because this person is trying to do a China bad struggle session.

              See here

              • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                lame, China good. Psychedelics should be legal regardless of what their position is though.

                and anecdotally, I do think weed can have psychedelic effects on people. It's not in the like technical category of psychedelic drugs with LSD and psilocybin, but if we used the term more broadly for the kind of effects you associate with them and consider, say, a dissociative like ketamine a psychedelic, enough weed can be like that. Personally I've had closed-eye visuals from smoking a lot on a low tolerance

          • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            the Schedule I-V classifications are ostensibly based their potential for abuse ("psychological or physical dependence"), not the subjective experience.

            e: to be clear because this is the internet, the schedule classifications are obviously not evidence based