Ukrainian ambassador to Germany Andriy Melnyk claims that neither Bandera loyalists nor Ukrainians in general ever massacred Jews. Holocaust denial in one of Germany's most watched independent outlets

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source: twitter.com/manaf12hassan/status/1542280625897496577

Interviewer: "The entire world acknowledges that Bandera was involved in the murder of hundreds of thousands of jews."

Melnyk: "No, that is not true. There is no evidence that Bandera's troops killed hundreds of thousands of jews. This is the narrative that the Russians are pushing to this day, which finds support in Poland, Germany, and Israel."

(keep in mind that Poland, Germany, and Israel all support this US-backed Ukrainian proxy war against Russia)

Interviewer: "So all of these claims are simply made up?"

Melnyk: "I do not know where they take this data from, but I am ready to talk to the Jewish communities about this, long as it stays factual."

Interviewer: cites a ukrainian pamphlet which openly calls for the annihilation of Jews, Poles and Russians, "signed" by Bandera

Melnyk: "What pamphlet?"

Interviewer: "It is a pamphlet from Ukraine when the Germans first arrived. They (Banderites) were distributing these among the Ukrainian population. It is very obvious."

Melnyk: "I will NOT distance myself from this (meaning Bandera) today, I can tell you that much. That is my decision. You might not understand that, but it is."

Interviewer: "Yes, I cannot understand how you can consider a mass murderer a hero."


How this reads to anyone paying attention:

Government of Ukraine, what are you willing to do in order to join Europe?

"Anything!"

Ruin your economy by deindustrializing and severing vital ties with Russia?

"Yes!"

Start a 8 year long ethnic conflict in Donbass on behalf of the USA?

"Yes!"

Disown the genocidal antisemitic nazi-collaborating fascist Stepan Bandera and find a more palatable national hero?

"Woah woah woah. Slow down. Too far. Also it didn't happen!"

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm pretty sure that's a literal crime in Germany (unless it only applies to denial of the Holocaust that took place within German borders but that seems unlikely?)

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Ukrainian politicians could piss on every Holocaust monument we have in Germany and our media would praise their bravery

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Apparently the road leading to the Holocaust museum in Ukraine is named after Bandera lol

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Glad I’m not the only noticing this lol. I often see liberals having no hesitation to call out black people who are fashy or vote against their own interests but when it comes to other white people (Zelensky is functionally white), then it’s radio silence. Unless of course it’s classist remarks about rednecks living in shacks and voting for billionaires

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      I'm still not clear what the win state for Russia vs. Ukraine is, exactly. Zelensky shows zero signs of wanting to surrender, not while the nationalists and NATO have guns to his head. Is the win condition indefinitely holding a hostile Ukraine, like a colder Afghanistan? Is the win condition killing every last soldier, demolishing every last fortified building and breaking every last bit of armor? Is Russia going to try to make Ukraine overthrow its own crypto-fascist government somehow?

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    My favorite bit of Bandera history is that after WW2 ended, the Soviets wanted him for war crimes in Ukraine. He was moved around and given fake IDs by the CIA until the KGB finally plugged him like 15 years later.

    :agony-shivering:

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    One of the most basic and predictable fascist takes: "the atrocity didn't happen. If you still believe that it did, it was exaggerated. If you believe that it didn't, it should have happened." :scared-fash:

  • sofia_commie [she/her,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    So now the woke liberal position in the west is to be a holocaust denialist but against the russians not in favor of the germans??