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      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        I mean, he literally kills himself to avenge his brother. That's got to count for something.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 years ago
            Um...

            That'll be tricky since it looks like his heart gave out at the end of the last episode.

            Also, not sure I'd call it "petty vengeance" so much as a belated Come To Jesus moment. He tried to do everything the "right" way in prior episodes, and Blue Hawk just ended up brushing him off and murdering a bunch of his family, friends, and neighbors. It is not unlike how every other character in the show is radicalized after witnessing a Superhero casually murder a loved one.

            • Thebestposter [she/her,they/them]
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              2 years ago

              There's a new episode

              He tried to do everything the “right” way in prior episodes,

              He absolutely didn't. That's the whole point of his arc. I genuinely can't think of a single time prior season 3 episode 6 where he does the "right thing".

              • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                2 years ago

                There’s a new episode

                Ah, sure enough. Still not dead.

                He absolutely didn’t. That’s the whole point of his arc.

                He tried to do everything the politically correct way. He goes through Vought. He asks for Blue Hawk's license to get pulled. He organizes a town hall. Etc.

              • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                2 years ago

                Oh I completely agree, but killing Blue Hawk and a terse apology to Hughie doesn’t come close to making up for what he did.

                The crippling of his brother is what sets A-Train on a new arc. That's the radicalizing moment that leads him to kill Blue Hawk. The apology to Hughie is more symbolic, indicating that he understands the damage he inflicted so casually in the first episode. And the adoption of The Boys' methods indicates that he's come around to their point of view.

                Had he died killing Blue Hawk it wouldn’t have meant nearly as much.

                It would have wrapped up his plotline. But I agree, it would have been an under-served character arc. Now I guess they get to run A-Train through the criminal justice system? That could be fun.

                And yes I do think it’s cool how his storyline parallels Hughie’s. He started off powertripping and addicted to V, then later became radicalized by a supe hurting someone he loves. Hughie kind of went in the opposite direction, though clearly they’re both going to wind up doing the right thing at the end.

                I don't know. This show doesn't seem like the type that does Happily Ever After. Hughie (and Butcher) could absolutely be corrupted by power and turn into just another soulless Super that MM has to hunt down. But I definitely appreciate the inversion of their story arcs. Its a fun narrative tool.

                • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  Well at this point their brains will be turned into swiss cheese. My money is on Butcher doing the noble sacrifice bit to make up for Lenny and Hughie.

                  They have 1 or 2 more doses each before they die from brain damage.

        • Thebestposter [she/her,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          It is. Especially with giving him a new heart, probably allowing him to zip around again. Although I really wish they don't make it a simple switch, because the guy has been a total piece of shit so far.