When is the last time when Dems didn't plan to win on the "the GOP sucks, so what else are you going to do but vote for us!?" platform?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/pressures-mounting-biden-thinks-gop-will-make-midterm-case-rcna36514

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    Democrats are now completely paralyzed by a contradiction. Their donors absolutely will not let them do good things for their voters (ostensibly the working class). But by not doing anything for the working class they are completely eroding their base of support. They can have money or votes, but not both.

    Also why the Democratic Party is going so hard after middle-class white libs. They like those voters because they don't demand them to do actual good things that improve the lives of the working class.

    • Runcible [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      This is also why they try so hard to act like there is a large contingent of voters who represent the average of the "extreme" positions instead of them being people with wildly inconsistent (but still extreme in regards to the Democratic Moderate) positions across the spectrum

    • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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      middle-class white libs also are the kind of people to donate their own money, regularly even, to political campaigns. And in the end, that's Bernie Sander's biggest legacy as a politician. Normalizing and massively increasing the volume of mass, individual donations from people who otherwise would never be donors. They adopted that method completely since 2016, just without the no billionaire money part of course. I'm sure it existed much earlier, but it was never in scope like it is now.

      People used to say here and on the old sub sometimes that they learned nothing from his campaign, but that's not true, they learned a very important method in keeping their party alive with fucking tribute, not just votes, from their shrinking support base.

  • save_vs_death [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    it's been known basically forever that unless you make a positive case, most people will simply not vote

  • Tormato [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    During a fundraising drive Pacifica Radio was playing excerpts from their amazing archives.

    James Baldwin was speaking just after the Birmingham Church Bombing. And in his inimitable laser sharp brilliance and intoxicating passionate oration very clearly said that neither party deserved their vote (shades of WEB DuBois blistering “Why I Won’t” essay in 1952 or 56).

    Basically said that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.

    Baldwin was such a titan.

      • Deadend [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They leaned that “people get mad when you make promises and don’t deliver”

        So the new stance is “no promises, no plans, but we aren’t Republicans, isn’t that ENOUGH!?”

      • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        He really did, though. Like, it’s pretty shocking when you look back at it.

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Lucy is getting so ripped from all of the reps she does lifting a football.

    • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      It's been the same people running your entire life. What do people expect?

      Sports teams have to fire the whole coaching staff to get new ideas. But in politics people expect freshness from the same stale fucks

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    As deranged as this is, I know suburban libs who genuinely think the GOP have "outplayed their hands" (verbatim) electorally with overturning Roe v Wade.

    • ScotPilgrimVsTheLibs [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Say what you will about Thought Slime, but this video he nails right out of the park dunking on how liberals assume that the majority of conservatives still care about decorum and would rather have their party lose "honorably" than win for the "wrong reasons".

      • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Lol it almost sounds like French aristocratic knights complaining after Battle of Crécy or Agincourt, "NOOOOO HOW DARE THE ENGLISH AMBUSH US WITH LOWLIFE COMMONER LONGBOW MEN?! COMPLETE BREACH OF CHIVALRIC HONOR!!!"

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      "They're all out of political capital now!" says the Lib who thinks the Democracy video games reflect anything real.

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  • Cromalin [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    2008 maybe? but before then it'd be the rainbow coalition i think

    • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Obama ran on 'I'm not Bush lol' then did all those things anyway and libs still love to crow about his great presidency lol.

      In 2008, his opponent: drill baby drill.

      In 2017, him: all that drilling? that was me