Consider the lobster!

  • WideningGyro [any]
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    2 years ago

    It doesn't - "predetermined" implies deterministic, not fatalistic. It's completely possible to envision a deterministic universe in which choice exists. That's the premise of compatibilism.

    • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I mean there's a limit to how much of a debate I want to have about this, but the wording is not simply that outcomes are predetermined, but that all outcomes have been predetermined since the universe began. That's a more extreme case than determinism, that's a description of fate.

      And the question is agnostic about how that affects free will, that's what you're being asked your opinion on.