This is super depressing to read. Kinda hits home a bit too since I've basically had no social life since I was in college, many moons ago. I see people saying this guy has a lot of incel shit in his history and I won't defend that, but it really can be a huge issue finding places to meet other people after high-school / college age. Everywhere is a transactional space.
late capitalism in the most "developed" societies are putting humans into never before seen living conditions of isolation and alienation. The negative reactions to this (incel culture one of many) are real social phenomena that need to be addressed. The capitalist response to incels is basically the same pull yourself up by your bootstraps shit, and selling you a million products to become an "alpha male". We are gonna need some serious feminist communism to rectify the fucked up way people relate to eachother now, cuz incels have basically internalized so much ToxMasc that they have become victims to it while also becoming it's foot soldiers. They need to be liberated as well, some will probably thank us afterwards for not letting them wallow in hate and self-loathing and allowing them to feel some happiness in their miserable lives.
Back when I lived in a bigger city I had attempted to find groups to do stuff with through websites that sorta have open invitations for people to join hobby groups, the issue was that it was almost always at a restaurant which means you'd need to be able to afford going out to eat on a regular basis which I did not have the ability to do. Now that I live outside the big city, there is nothing. Any trans spaces are either for people under 21 or filled with boomers. At this point I'm just super anxious about going into public places which just continues to feed into the isolation.
I've basically given up on dating entirely because you can't convince me subjecting myself to predatory apps is good for me. They've made dating so "streamlined" and transactional a process that I'd rather stay alone than subject myself to it. I get why so many people have turned to incel shit because there is such a deep rot in our society that keeps us from being who we should be. In a community that supported these men and allowed them to fully express themselves, would they have turned into such shitters?
I had an extremely robust social support system early in college but it was because there were spaces and events created to get me to meet the rest of the community around me, there's nothing really out there for adults. Go out and eat with a bunch of rich white people, join a support group of boomers that would throw you out the instant you propose anything left of log cabin republican talking points, or sign up with organizations that don't even mention LGBT rights as part of their goals for "change."
Regarding the dating app point in particular, I'll add that there was a post here a few days ago about how the company that owns most of the big dating / hook-up services was funding anti-abortion groups.
left internetists will never be able to metabolize or properly engage with inceldom because it's a logical outcome of the real experiences of alienated subjects. no amount of "well they're just bad and they need to go to the brain mechanic to become good" will prevent loneliness from curdling into anger.
Personally, the moment I knew internet discourse would not contribute anything of value to the incel problem was when people almost immediately just turned it into another way to call people virgins derisively, and their main response to the problem was largely to double down on virgin-shaming, literally part of the problem.
This is super depressing to read. Kinda hits home a bit too since I've basically had no social life since I was in college, many moons ago. I see people saying this guy has a lot of incel shit in his history and I won't defend that, but it really can be a huge issue finding places to meet other people after high-school / college age. Everywhere is a transactional space.
late capitalism in the most "developed" societies are putting humans into never before seen living conditions of isolation and alienation. The negative reactions to this (incel culture one of many) are real social phenomena that need to be addressed. The capitalist response to incels is basically the same pull yourself up by your bootstraps shit, and selling you a million products to become an "alpha male". We are gonna need some serious feminist communism to rectify the fucked up way people relate to eachother now, cuz incels have basically internalized so much ToxMasc that they have become victims to it while also becoming it's foot soldiers. They need to be liberated as well, some will probably thank us afterwards for not letting them wallow in hate and self-loathing and allowing them to feel some happiness in their miserable lives.
Back when I lived in a bigger city I had attempted to find groups to do stuff with through websites that sorta have open invitations for people to join hobby groups, the issue was that it was almost always at a restaurant which means you'd need to be able to afford going out to eat on a regular basis which I did not have the ability to do. Now that I live outside the big city, there is nothing. Any trans spaces are either for people under 21 or filled with boomers. At this point I'm just super anxious about going into public places which just continues to feed into the isolation.
I've basically given up on dating entirely because you can't convince me subjecting myself to predatory apps is good for me. They've made dating so "streamlined" and transactional a process that I'd rather stay alone than subject myself to it. I get why so many people have turned to incel shit because there is such a deep rot in our society that keeps us from being who we should be. In a community that supported these men and allowed them to fully express themselves, would they have turned into such shitters?
I had an extremely robust social support system early in college but it was because there were spaces and events created to get me to meet the rest of the community around me, there's nothing really out there for adults. Go out and eat with a bunch of rich white people, join a support group of boomers that would throw you out the instant you propose anything left of log cabin republican talking points, or sign up with organizations that don't even mention LGBT rights as part of their goals for "change."
Regarding the dating app point in particular, I'll add that there was a post here a few days ago about how the company that owns most of the big dating / hook-up services was funding anti-abortion groups.
left internetists will never be able to metabolize or properly engage with inceldom because it's a logical outcome of the real experiences of alienated subjects. no amount of "well they're just bad and they need to go to the brain mechanic to become good" will prevent loneliness from curdling into anger.
Personally, the moment I knew internet discourse would not contribute anything of value to the incel problem was when people almost immediately just turned it into another way to call people virgins derisively, and their main response to the problem was largely to double down on virgin-shaming, literally part of the problem.
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