Its been awesome talking 1 on 1 with her about my "political" views. I got to explain western propoganda re: communism, define marxism and explain to her how and why I hate liberals more than she does. When I explained I was basically just a dialectical materialist who didn't believe in culture war bullshit or dividing the working class along those lines, she said "well gee, when you say it like that it kinda makes sense."

Anyway, now we're going shooting together! :stalin-heart:

Btw I do not plan to tell anyone at this range that Im a marxist, I can already see the story in this tiny county's local edition: "Tragic gun malfunction kills one at local gun range"

  • fuckmyphonefuckingsu [comrade/them]
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    Well, when you consider that racism is perpetuated by systemic poverty, privatization and a multi-billion dollar media apparatus invested in the culture war shit I mentioned above, this is the exact type thing I would never say to a chud if you want to swing their POV in any way. I hear you, though. IMO when the chuds are trying to join your unionizing effort, you take the W. Deprograming bigotry can happen in the close quarters with family/friends after you get them to acknowledge the imperitive of unequivocal working class solidarity. In fact, if they acknowledge that at all, then you've already made strides in that direction.

    That, or we can all just kill each other later

    Edit: the second I responded the account got banned lol

    • gueybana [any]
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      Deprograming bigotry can happen in the close quarters with family/friends after you get them to acknowledge the imperitive of unequivocal working class solidarity.

      lmao yes, after you've turned off all of your working class poc comrades because you're more interested in luring your conservative grandma and other chuds in your family, you can then deprogram them of bigotry.

      Good to know people on this site would inadvertently railroad us because they believe in deprogramming bigotry. Good luck with that.

            • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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              2 years ago

              What other accurate analyses of conditions in America created and championed by oppressed classes should we drop so that over privileged smooth brains like you won’t drop everything and be “driven” to be reactionary pieces of shit?

                • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                  2 years ago

                  Lmao you never can commit to shit you always back down when pressed bc you literally can not justify your position beyond yelling that it’s obv. I love to see dunning-Kruger effect work tho so keep going lol

                  Lmao it was literally explained last time about it being about power relations between oppressed and oppressed which white people are in America. We even did your Japanese thought experiment for you which you then slinked away from bc you literally can’t hold a thought In your brain for more than a millisecond Lmao

                    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                      Lmao I genuinely almost feel bad for how bad you are at critical thinking

                      “You just want me to expose how reactionary I am!!” :wojak-nooo:

                      Maybe do some self crit and that won’t happen so often :vivian-shrug:

                        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                          Yea I already know you have a lot of reactionary beliefs you can’t be disabused of. Bc your beliefs are emotional and grown out of your fragile pathetic identity as a privileged white cis dude I’m not surprised to here you’re a disingenuous moron lol

        • gueybana [any]
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          2 years ago

          I'm not the other poster, I didn't propose using the line of rhetoric that says 'it's not possible to be racist against white people'. I'm more referring to your belief that you can 'deprogram' bigotry frompeople who literally identify as conservatives In the United States.

          • fuckmyphonefuckingsu [comrade/them]
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            I’m more referring to your belief that you can ‘deprogram’ bigotry frompeople who literally identify as conservatives In the United States.

            I made huge inroads on this exact topic in an hour of conversing with a group of conservatives in my family. It really wasn't that hard. You may not have to or want to engage with those people though, and that's fine. Personally I don't think any of my POC friends are going to disavow me for trying. Then again, they aren't terminally online, so :shrug-outta-hecks:

            • gueybana [any]
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              Personally I don’t think any of my POC friends are going to disavow me for trying. Then again, they aren’t terminally online, so

              What can I say, your POC friends are way cooler than I am. Maybe you should share your bigotry deprogramming tactics with the site, It would be pretty useful if you're right about making significant inroads with your fam on racism after speaking for only a single hour.

              I don't disavow you for trying. I mean, that's commendable. I just think you're naive when it comes to being convinced that it isn't a futile endeavor and ends up being counterproductive.

              • fuckmyphonefuckingsu [comrade/them]
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                I get it. I don't love the idea of chuds wanting to join my union, and I hope I was never interpreted to mean that I think we should be making common cause with racists at the expense of POC comrades. I would never wish for that. I just believe that trash reactionary fascist ideology is a product of exploitation + right wing media feedback mechanisms, and I know from personal experience that you can combat that in people when they know/trust you. I've never tried this on a stranger, though - that probably would be more of a futile Habermassean liberal excercise, idk. I appreciate your criticial feedback, comrade.

        • gueybana [any]
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          I’m sorry, but you sound like the vegans we had to ban en masse for starting dumb sectarian shit all over this site.

          Good to know talking about race is sectarianism here. You can get me banned if you'd like.