• pingveno@lemmy.ml
    hexagon
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    6 months ago

    ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attacks. My thoughts go out to the victims, their families, and the people of Russia. This is just terrible.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Western values on display once again. Reminder, that Vicky the witch promised for asymmetrical warfare and “nasty surprises. These are the surprises.

    *removed externally hosted image*

    • pingveno@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      This is a ridiculous accusation. The West had warned Russia and Russia chose to brush off the warning. ISIS has claimed responsibility. Face it, Putin is just trying to spread conspiracy theories to cover up his failure as a leader.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        In what way has Russia chosen to brush off the warning? Meanwhile, any proxy group can claim responsibility, the fact that you treat that as some sort of evidence says volumes. One of your regime's top ghouls went on TV and promised to conduct acts of terrorism in Russia. Now we're seeing acts of terrorism being conducted in Russia. These are the facts of the situation.

        The fact that internet trolls are now trying to paint this as a conspiracy theory is just the repeat of the Nord Stream nonsense. Your regime is famous for doing precisely these sorts of attacks buddy.

        • pingveno@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          6 months ago

          In what way has Russia chosen to brush off the warning?

          This was well documented with statements released to Russian state media.

          One of your regime’s top ghouls went on TV and promised to conduct acts of terrorism in Russia.

          She explicitly said battlefield, not concert halls. Considering the US passed along intelligence to the Russians, what's the supposed angle here? What 5D chess is the US playing? Come on, at least come up with something coherent.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            6 months ago

            What Putin actually said in your second link is that the west was using terrorism as blackmail. Nowhere did he dismiss it.

            She explicitly said battlefield, not concert halls. Considering the US passed along intelligence to the Russians, what’s the supposed angle here? What 5D chess is the US playing? Come on, at least come up with something coherent.

            She explicitly said asymmetric warfare which means terrorism. US did not pass any concrete intelligence to Russia either. The angle here is the same as it's always been, to try and cause civil unrest by any means necessary.

            Also, here's Emily Harding, who is a former CIA operative within the US government-funded think tank CSIS saying: "if we find a way to make the Russian population at home understand the costs of this conflict to them in their hometowns".

            https://www.csis.org/analysis/ukraine-balance-battlefield-update-war-ukraine

            Here's Gen. Milley: “There should be no Russian who goes to sleep without wondering if they’re going to get their throat slit in the middle of the night,” Milley said, according to an official with knowledge of the event. “You gotta get back there, and create a campaign behind the lines.”

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

            The sentiment in Washington before the Moscow attack was that Russians needed to experience firsthand the impact of the war in Ukraine. This attitude intensified as US sanctions proved ineffective, Russian advancements in Ukraine quickened, and President Putin received a high level of support from the Russian population during recent elections.

            Previous attempts to make Russians understand the war’s effects included drone strikes on major city centers, attacks on infrastructure, and efforts to destabilize Russia’s economy.

            This is what your terrorist state does everywhere because your country is a plague upon humanity. This is what you're all about https://razedbywolves.blogspot.com/2021/08/a-detailed-chronological-list-of-us_5.html?m=1

        • pingveno@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          6 months ago

          What election? Do you mean the one where the opposition's leader was murdered?

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            6 months ago

            The opposition

            There were three opposition parties, actually. And I assume you're talking about the blood clot that nazi got in prison, right? Any actual evidence pointing to that being unnatural, or are we doing the standard blueanon "putin is behind this somehow" line of conspiratorial thinking?

            • pingveno@lemmy.ml
              hexagon
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              6 months ago

              Surely you're familiar with controlled opposition, people who run merely to provide the illusion of a real election while any real contenders are kept dead, silenced, locked up, off the ballot, or otherwise suppressed?

              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                6 months ago

                While i wait for your evidence of murder, I'm curious: What do you think the common people of a country with a political system compromised by controlled opposition should do?

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            6 months ago

            Navalny never had more than like 2% support in Russia, Calling him the opposition leader shows that you're utterly clueless on the subject of Russian politics. The actual opposition in Russia is KPRF as opposed to a fucking west backed fascist which is what Navalny was.

      • robinn_IV
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        6 months ago

        Western values on display once again.

        This is a ridiculous accusation... ISIS has claimed responsibility

        Not the contradiction you think it is

      • Hestia [comrade/them, she/her]
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        6 months ago

        So why would ISIS attack Russia? What is their motive? It's easy to "claim responsibility." It's an entirely different story to use a great deal of resources to actually plan and carry out a terrorist attack of this scale. And for what reason? To provoke another world power?? I call bullshit.

        • pingveno@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          6 months ago

          They have been fighting each other as part of the ongoing Syrian civil war for about the past decade. I'd say that's motive enough.

  • mctoasterson@reddthat.com
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    6 months ago

    Allow me to point to the cognitive dissonance that should be occurring among the Gaza ceasefire types -

    Examine your logic of "Government X is bad, therefore it's good when bad things happen to its civilians."

    I'd suggest this way of thinking is flawed in both situations.

    • RedWizard [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      If this thought was any more shallow it would evaporate.

    • robinn_IV
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      6 months ago

      Examine your logic of "Government X is bad, therefore it's good when bad things happen to its civilians."

      Read up on the inherent violence of settler-colonialism; settlers cannot be equated with civilians

      I'd suggest this way of thinking is flawed in both situations.

      smuglord