This is a tweet by Roko. Yes, that Roko.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's escapist magical thinking and some here on Hexbear have it too. Yes, death is scary. Yes, the subjective experience of consciousness is fragile and finite. But even a "perfect" copy later is still a different, new person. I assume they'd be happy to exist, but it still isn't the original.

    I wrote an entire novel trilogy with the techbro delusion of "perfect copies" as a central plot point. The "uploads" start having a problem when the "uploaded" no longer need to die to "upload," and because techbros don't like to share, not even with their "perfect copies," it gets... violent.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      its pretty silly. i dont even see why i'd be concerned if i was the OG kristina or not. i'd just be like 'ok cool we got a ton of at-will cuddle buddies with trauma now' and get on with life

      its all just immaterial, and yeah, magical. its also just a mishmash of scifi tropes which proves that these dudes have no original thoughts despite trying their hardest to make it seem intelligent and independent, and of course it ends in the epitome of 'rehash' by turning it into a doomsday cult that receives donations

      • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        Hopping in the thread late, but after reading the wiki the whole thing reminds me of Montaigne.

        They would put themselves out of themselves, and escape from being men. It is folly; instead of transforming themselves into angels, they transform themselves into beasts; instead of elevating, they lay themselves lower. These transcendental humours affright me, like high and inaccessible places;

        And a bit below

        The pretty inscription wherewith the Athenians honoured the entry of Pompey into their city is conformable to my sense: “By so much thou art a god, as thou confessest thee a man.” ’Tis an absolute and, as it were, a divine perfection, for a man to know how loyally to enjoy his being

        Gotta be willing to accept being in a body where the only constant is change (something TERFS can never accept, being essentialists).

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They somehow managed to take "god isn't real, souls aren't real" and kitbash it with their own god substitute rapture escapism fantasies. They want to seem beyond superstition while trying very hard to get the same hit that religion typically provides.