Couldn't fit in title but it's meant to say the President of National authority of Palestine (de facto government of most of the west bank).

  • princeofsin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    “I am disgusted by the outrageous remarks made by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas,” Scholz said. “For us Germans in particular, any relativization of the singularity of the Holocaust is intolerable and unacceptable. I condemn any attempt to deny the crimes of the Holocaust.”

    What is this bullshit? Children are slaughtered everyday in that open air prison. Fuck you and your fake outrage you cuck.

    • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      "The holocaust was bad and because it was so bad I'm going to use it as a point of comparison for this other bad thing that is happening now so that we can come to a better understanding of how bad these things are."

      "HOW DARE YOU SAY THE HOLOCAUST WASN'T BAD?!?!"

        • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          "I condemn any attempt to deny the crimes of the Holocaust."

          Then quote the holocaust denial he is talking about .

            • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I'm not quoting you, I'm quoting the racist you're defending. Did you read anything that you're talking about? This conversation looks like it's going to be worthless.

          • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            There are no death camps in Israel. Palestinians are not gassed nor worked to death. Neither are they forced in cattle cars to be driven towards their death. There's your denial.

              • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Seems like I missed the part where Abbas said that the holocaust was much much worse than what Israelis are doing to Palestinians

                • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  that's not what I asked nor would it be necessary for the point I'm making. it's actually not necessary to qualify everything you say with an exact measurement of relative suffering in order to say something is bad. sorry, actually you don't need the suffering of Muslims to be diminished in order to speak about them. that's just a way for you to (very very poorly) distract from their suffering in a very disgusting way, and it's more transparent than you think lol. kinda pathetic.

                  and there's still no denialism present

    • machiabelly [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It's just a way to connect Palestine to anti semitism. Clearly the Palestinians are just crazies who don't like jews being in the middle east. The closer hating israel can get to hating jews the closer the west germans are to another genocide

      • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Palestinians in Germany like to chant "Hamas Hamas Jews into the gas" during protests. Tell me how that's not anti semitic.

  • Old_Barbarossa [he/him,comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    Predictably the whole of Europe is up in arms over this. Abbas also refused to denounce the Munich Olympic Games attack of 1972 and he called Israel an apartheid state.

    Scholtz only pushed back on that last allegation and let the rest slide until he had to apologise on twitter lmao.

    I don't know what Abbas expected to accomplish here, this was the only result these statements could have produced

      • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think Hamas is sorta where Fatah was in 2005- almost ready to (at least officially) stop attacks in return for funds, work permits, and recognition. PIJ is ready to fill in the armed resistance void left by Hamas anyway. Abbas is afraid that Fatah's international/ NGO support and funding, along with electoral support in semi-autonomous West Bank cities will dry up if Hamas has both legitimacy (in the eyes of the ISraelis) and popular support among the Palestinian people.

        • MerryChristmas [any]
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          2 years ago

          How do you keep up with these topics? I'd love to stay more up-to-date.

          • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Here's a good recent "Explainer" I'm wary of Wikipedia, but lots of the current factionalism directly goes back to The 2005 Election where essentially, Fatah secured 1-party rule over West Bank municipalities and Hamas secured power in Gaza. Middle East Eye is pretty good as a source, I'd just particularly avoid Times of Israel and Algemeiner (very clickbaity/Hasbarist).

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is all for domestic consumption. Palestine is fucked with inflation and normal folk are getting riled up.

  • HamManBad [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I can definitely see why Germans might be upset about using "Holocaust" as a unit of measurement for atrocities, even if this whole situation is very :LIB:

  • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    WHY DO THESE MFERS HAVE THAT UNRELENTING URGE TO RELATIVIZE THE INDUSTRIAL MASS MURDER GERMANY COMMITTED?