practicing cleanliness is a decent way of developing conscientiousness, but you gotta start small (like pick up that piece of paper on the ground that shouldn’t be there and place it in trash can small) and be consistent about it in order to build physical and psychic momentum. you can actually turn it into a sort of sisyphean exercise routine where you come home, knock over a pack of cards and pick them all up (maybe sort them as well). the key here is to remember to slowly and incrementally graduate to cleaning your room/doing the dishes.
that piece of paper on the ground isn't hurting anything
-depression logic
but seriously, i'm not sure self-imposed restrictions that require executive function are the way out of not having executive function. sounds kinda bootstraps
I have been through great suffering over the course of my life when I was a child I almost died from a horrific illness and it instilled in me a burning desire to live. Because of this I find it hard to appreciate your position
wanting to never have been born and wanting to die are very very different things.
and even the pain I have suffered made me who I am and I would not trade it away if I could.
that's your choice to make but the question is whether it's OK to put somebody else through what you've been through without being able to ask them.
You cannot know ahead of time that someone won’t think their life was worth living
that isn't equivalent to my statement, we know with 100% certainty that people will suffer for being alive, even if it's just aches or boredom or something trivial. It wouldn't be moral to go around zapping people with a device that made people experience the unpleasant sensation that happens when your foot falls asleep.
nothing is lost if somebody doesn't exist in the first place but pain is guaranteed if they do.
but everyone suffers. it's inevitable, especially under capitalism, but even things like school bullying, heartbreak, and accidental injuries would continue to happen to people even if communism wins. to say nothing of all the suffering between now and then that could be avoided.
If it's immoral to cause someone harm or put them in a situation where they will come to harm without their consent then it must also be immoral to create new people who will inevitably be harmed and hurt.
you can't know ahead of time if someone will think their life was worth living.
that's a misunderstanding or misrepresentation. Pleasure is real but it doesn't negate suffering.
no amount of future pleasure can make up for what i've suffered, and i reject the idea that any amount of suffering or pleasure are interchangeable like a math equation.
it's not moral to put someone in a situation where they will be harmed without their consent. it doesn't suddenly become OK to lead someone to harm or cause them harm just because you give them pleasurable things later.
no, you can't look at the history of the struggle for womens' liberation and say having kids was "a choice" for people who could become pregnant. especially not in "horrible situations".
stopped by the people doing it. stopped by the international community that should be allies of the palestinians rather than the regime. resisted by the people who are already alive.
what gives you the right to conscript someone into a generation-spanning struggle?
yeah, people who have the luxury of family planning and actually making a choice are (hopefully) considering the kind of life they can provide for their child but like the rest of western society i'm sure that doesn't include thinking climate change very much or very often
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i don't think you realize how insensitive what you just said is.