I'll go ahead and say the entire concept of what Marx called "upper-phase communism" is uncompelling and useless in terms of convincing people. So, the whole idea of a future society that has no property, no money, and no state. I usually hear this as a retort to everday people who think communism means a huge government that controls everything. But actually ah ha, true communism has no state!
Yeah it's just such a bad starting angle and I've only seen it attract cranks. Especially since they'll have to square that stateless, moneyless concept with existing and past socialist projects, which don't resemble that futuristic society.
Some people even go further, descriving SimCity style plans for collective factories and participation quotas and full economic automation. Stuff that doesn't exist. I actually do believe a society like that is possible and inevitable but who knows how we get there.
Instead the focus should always be on what's possible right now, for any leftist project. It's what can be done through organizing what we currently have and how to improve people's lives right now.
I'll go ahead and say the entire concept of what Marx called "upper-phase communism" is uncompelling and useless in terms of convincing people. So, the whole idea of a future society that has no property, no money, and no state. I usually hear this as a retort to everday people who think communism means a huge government that controls everything. But actually ah ha, true communism has no state!
Yeah it's just such a bad starting angle and I've only seen it attract cranks. Especially since they'll have to square that stateless, moneyless concept with existing and past socialist projects, which don't resemble that futuristic society.
Some people even go further, descriving SimCity style plans for collective factories and participation quotas and full economic automation. Stuff that doesn't exist. I actually do believe a society like that is possible and inevitable but who knows how we get there.
Instead the focus should always be on what's possible right now, for any leftist project. It's what can be done through organizing what we currently have and how to improve people's lives right now.
I mean yeah, it's meant to be the future that's worked towards. It's the end-phase.
Yeah, I just mean to say it's typically not convincing to people hearing it for the first time, as their first introduction to what leftists want.
Yeah, this is pure utopianism. Crank ideology
I think it serves the same function that "heaven" does to Christians.
It doesn't exist and never has and never will, but it's a compelling myth that spurs people to action.