I’ll see you when the Grayzone does another article debunking some imperialist lie in Ukraine, Serbia, Moldova, Syria or Iraq where they are doing work while you sit on your ass breaking up anti-imperialist networks with pointless infighting
No criticizing me until you do all the things I do, starting with taking really good naps.
Anyways I can't even cite The Grayzone at anyone anymore because they went full clown mode. There's a turd in the punchbowl and you are hassling comrades that don't want to drink from it. "It's good punch!", you say, citing how good it was before the turd was in it. "Don't criticize the turd punch until you make a fresh batch yourself!", clearly defensive about the idea that Max Blumenthal et al, precious uncriticizable saviors of anti-imperialism, get dismissed because they keep shitting in the punch.
I’m going to stick with using anti-imperialist journalistic outlets for their material intended purpose, learning more about the world and using that knowledge to try and help those who are exploited and colonized. You can do whatever game it is you are doing, it’s not my fault if you have buckled to liberal bourgeois sensibilities and optics about what can be accepted off of one disagreement
Are you not saying, "how dare you critize The Grayzone, look at what they did [years ago]! You can't knock them until you create your own anti-imperialist journalism outfit! They've made better punch than you ever will!" Because you've been saying versions of that at like 4-5 different people, usually to avoid actually addressing what the person is saying to you.
I’m going to stick with using anti-imperialist journalistic outlets for their material intended purpose, learning more about the world and using that knowledge to try and help those who are exploited and colonized. You can do whatever game it is you are doing, it’s not my fault if you have buckled to liberal bourgeois sensibilities and optics about what can be accepted off of one disagreement
Right, you seem to be personally identifying with The Grayzone and its authors to the extent that you engage in repeated bad faith engagements with comrades that criticize their reactionary turn. Nobody is telling you what you can read lol what is this
What they still do. They still publish anti-imperialist articles. Go there now, their front page are news stories on Nicaragua, Ukraine, Syria published recently, scoops that are often based in reporting on the ground.
Knives are out right now and you all need to fucking chill. Why is right now the time you decide to cannibalize
What they still do. They still publish anti-imperialist articles.
The examples you've been throwing at comrades are all from years ago. You've been citing one author's work from years ago, an author I haven't even mentioned lol. I am describing the things you are doing and you're trying to pretend I'm making things up. Now is the part where someone trying to be accurate would say, "oh you're right I did say stuff like that [addresses the point made]". Alas.
Knives are out right now and you all need to fucking chill. Why is right now the time you decide to cannibalize
The Grayzone shot itself on the foot over a year ago lol. We've been talking about it, here, for over a year, were wondering when people might start bailing on it. Norton started Multipolarista because he saw the writing on the wall, that was in January.
You are personally surprised and upset, but none of this is new and you're not defending any alliance, though you will actually eventually do the opposite and alienate the people targeted by the reactionary tendencies surfacing at The Grayzone. This is what always happens when folks try to "save" a few chucklefucks who turn reactionary, as if you can only have shared struggles or X, where in this case X is an anti-imperialist journalism outfit. No, fuck that, go read more widely, that's not the choice we have to make. It's also self-defeating because again, nobody is going to respect their publication anymore outside of the patsocs or confused baby leftists. There is no light at the end of that tunnel, it's poison.
Aaron Mate works at the grayzone and reports for them. If they are reactionary and sexist and nazbol and a turd as you say, that would imply he is too. You all seem to be high in the mood for destroying and wrecking based on implications of reaction and all that, so have at it. Eat Aaron alive. The one who did more than the combined usership of this site to fight imperialism. We are just jumping person to person, associating them with being “Nazbols”. Get the pitchfork out folks
Aaron Mate works at the grayzone and reports for them.
Yeah duh
If they are reactionary and sexist and nazbol and a turd as you say
Sorry, no dice lib. I didn't say half that stuff and "turd in the punchbowl" is a common idiom, not just name-calling someone a poopy.
You all seem to be high in the mood for destroying and wrecking based on implications of reaction and all that, so have at it. Eat Aaron alive. The one who did more than the combined usership of this site to fight imperialism. We are just jumping person to person, associating them with being “Nazbols”. Get the pitchfork out folks
You seem to be having trouble distinguishing people who criticize The Grayzone after its big, embarrassing descent into reactionary shit. You think I said things that others did, we're all the same, blah blah blah. This is baby thinking.
People in this thread have leveled all the accusations I have stated at the grayzone, verbatim. “Reactionary” and “Nazbol” and “Sexist” and “Misogynistic” were all used explicitly, I can link to the comments.
These are all hyperbolic wrecking sectarian statements that I am condemning to maintain a coalition of anti-imperialism broadly. You are the ones being antagonistic here. How hard is it to simply not character assassinate every ally we have?
Am I people or a person? You're having trouble telling the difference. I will help you. I am one person.
These are all hyperbolic wrecking sectarian statements
lol Blumenthal alone has been going anti-vaxx, anti-lockdown, writing transphobic shit while aligning with Caleb Maupin.
Several others have been doing similar things while some cooler folks bailed because they know the outfit is going in a clown direction.
"Hyperbolic"
"Wrecking"
"Sectarian"
that I am condemning to maintain a coalition of anti-imperialism broadly.
Coalition? Excuse me, this is a Wendy's small anonymous commie social media website and you're not maintaining shit by knee-jerk defending reactionary tendencies in bad faith on the most unambiguously trans-inclusive leftist space on the internet.
You are the ones being antagonistic here.
I'm making fun of you for the belligerent shit you're saying at comrades here.
How hard is it to simply not character assassinate every ally we have?
lol they did it to themselves already. The turd is in the punchbowl. You can't share this shit with anyone, all they have to do is read what these losers write and say there and elsewhere and you can be easily dismissed by libs and commies alike, as they've destroyed their credibility. I'm sorry your favorite (only, maybe?) source of anti-imperialist journalism is made up of reactionaries now but you've gotta learn how to cope.
So did Grayzone realize it was more profitable to be reactionaries?
Yep. Its always sad seeing people find out what's happened to them :doomer:
No, they are just being smeared yet again and some of you will fall for it
smearing is when you voluntarily post cringe and people cringe at it
oh my god I’m always being smeared, I might as well be a bagel at a new york deli!!
You are yet to prove the cringe. None of you have
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lol get a load of this :LIB:
Famous lib thing to do, defend the grayzone
Going down with the ship after an outlet burns its credibility and does reactionary shit over and over and over and over again is very :lib:.
And then going to the mat with comrades in defense of it, lol.
I’ll see you when the Grayzone does another article debunking some imperialist lie in Ukraine, Serbia, Moldova, Syria or Iraq where they are doing work while you sit on your ass breaking up anti-imperialist networks with pointless infighting
lol this is like talking to an Elon Musk stan
Is this section of the site natoids or what?
Sorry I don't talk to people that aren't currently writing investigative reports into false Xinjiang narratives.
:jesse-wtf:
No criticizing me until you do all the things I do, starting with taking really good naps.
Anyways I can't even cite The Grayzone at anyone anymore because they went full clown mode. There's a turd in the punchbowl and you are hassling comrades that don't want to drink from it. "It's good punch!", you say, citing how good it was before the turd was in it. "Don't criticize the turd punch until you make a fresh batch yourself!", clearly defensive about the idea that Max Blumenthal et al, precious uncriticizable saviors of anti-imperialism, get dismissed because they keep shitting in the punch.
If I make up a metaphor it’s real.
I’m going to stick with using anti-imperialist journalistic outlets for their material intended purpose, learning more about the world and using that knowledge to try and help those who are exploited and colonized. You can do whatever game it is you are doing, it’s not my fault if you have buckled to liberal bourgeois sensibilities and optics about what can be accepted off of one disagreement
Are you not saying, "how dare you critize The Grayzone, look at what they did [years ago]! You can't knock them until you create your own anti-imperialist journalism outfit! They've made better punch than you ever will!" Because you've been saying versions of that at like 4-5 different people, usually to avoid actually addressing what the person is saying to you.
Right, you seem to be personally identifying with The Grayzone and its authors to the extent that you engage in repeated bad faith engagements with comrades that criticize their reactionary turn. Nobody is telling you what you can read lol what is this
What they still do. They still publish anti-imperialist articles. Go there now, their front page are news stories on Nicaragua, Ukraine, Syria published recently, scoops that are often based in reporting on the ground.
Knives are out right now and you all need to fucking chill. Why is right now the time you decide to cannibalize
The examples you've been throwing at comrades are all from years ago. You've been citing one author's work from years ago, an author I haven't even mentioned lol. I am describing the things you are doing and you're trying to pretend I'm making things up. Now is the part where someone trying to be accurate would say, "oh you're right I did say stuff like that [addresses the point made]". Alas.
The Grayzone shot itself on the foot over a year ago lol. We've been talking about it, here, for over a year, were wondering when people might start bailing on it. Norton started Multipolarista because he saw the writing on the wall, that was in January.
You are personally surprised and upset, but none of this is new and you're not defending any alliance, though you will actually eventually do the opposite and alienate the people targeted by the reactionary tendencies surfacing at The Grayzone. This is what always happens when folks try to "save" a few chucklefucks who turn reactionary, as if you can only have shared struggles or X, where in this case X is an anti-imperialist journalism outfit. No, fuck that, go read more widely, that's not the choice we have to make. It's also self-defeating because again, nobody is going to respect their publication anymore outside of the patsocs or confused baby leftists. There is no light at the end of that tunnel, it's poison.
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Why is Aaron Mate not a comrade? Why is it ok to “imply” he is a nazbol?
Did you confuse me with someone else or are you just channeling :expert-shapiro: with pseudo-gotchas?
Aaron Mate works at the grayzone and reports for them. If they are reactionary and sexist and nazbol and a turd as you say, that would imply he is too. You all seem to be high in the mood for destroying and wrecking based on implications of reaction and all that, so have at it. Eat Aaron alive. The one who did more than the combined usership of this site to fight imperialism. We are just jumping person to person, associating them with being “Nazbols”. Get the pitchfork out folks
Yeah duh
Sorry, no dice lib. I didn't say half that stuff and "turd in the punchbowl" is a common idiom, not just name-calling someone a poopy.
You seem to be having trouble distinguishing people who criticize The Grayzone after its big, embarrassing descent into reactionary shit. You think I said things that others did, we're all the same, blah blah blah. This is baby thinking.
People in this thread have leveled all the accusations I have stated at the grayzone, verbatim. “Reactionary” and “Nazbol” and “Sexist” and “Misogynistic” were all used explicitly, I can link to the comments.
These are all hyperbolic wrecking sectarian statements that I am condemning to maintain a coalition of anti-imperialism broadly. You are the ones being antagonistic here. How hard is it to simply not character assassinate every ally we have?
Am I people or a person? You're having trouble telling the difference. I will help you. I am one person.
lol Blumenthal alone has been going anti-vaxx, anti-lockdown, writing transphobic shit while aligning with Caleb Maupin.
Several others have been doing similar things while some cooler folks bailed because they know the outfit is going in a clown direction.
"Hyperbolic"
"Wrecking"
"Sectarian"
Coalition? Excuse me, this is a
Wendy'ssmall anonymous commie social media website and you're not maintaining shit by knee-jerk defending reactionary tendencies in bad faith on the most unambiguously trans-inclusive leftist space on the internet.I'm making fun of you for the belligerent shit you're saying at comrades here.
lol they did it to themselves already. The turd is in the punchbowl. You can't share this shit with anyone, all they have to do is read what these losers write and say there and elsewhere and you can be easily dismissed by libs and commies alike, as they've destroyed their credibility. I'm sorry your favorite (only, maybe?) source of anti-imperialist journalism is made up of reactionaries now but you've gotta learn how to cope.
Disengage bellingcat Liberal
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Ok then disengage friendo :)
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A consistent pattern of deflection and bad faith.
You can't build a transphobic coalition here.
Edit: Disengage
You're free to stop replying any time you'd like, lib.
your responses are :chefs-kiss:
:stalin-heart:
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Getting in on that door grift